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rogifan_new said:

hittrj01 said:

rogifan_new said:

I hate that the 4.7" iPhone gets treated like a second class citizen. Not everyone wants a phablet. Apple brought OIS to the 4.7" model. That leads me to believe bringing stuff to 5.5" model only isn't technical but for upsell purposes.

Nevermind the fact it took them 2 additional generations to get it into the 4.7" model.  If it was just for upsell purposes, why not put it in the 6s? Why wait for the 7? I'm sure there is some pressure to differentiate and justify the higher price, but screen size and battery life more than justify it. It's not like they withheld water resistance or things like that from the smaller model.

Edit: fixed a couple typos

I'm not aware of any tear down suggesting a specific engineering reason OIS finally made it into the smaller phone. I think 3D Touch and Taptic Engine was the major focus of the 6S and they needed something for the 7 knowing it wasn't a major redesign. Honestly I'm not a huge fan of the idea of a Plus model. It seems more about upsell and raising ASPs than anything else. It's funny when Schiller says they don't design to a price because it seems the whole point of iPhone Plus and iPad Pro was to get people to spend more money and raise ASPs. Apple added Retina display, 64-bit chip and Touch ID all without increasing the price of the phone. Every year the iPad got better with no price increase. Did the changes to the 9.7" iPad warrant a price increase? Or did Apple decided to create a new 'Pro' model so they could add $100 to the price? Unless you're using accessories purchased separately like Smart Keyboard or Pencil what really makes the iPad Pro a Pro device and the Air not?

bluefire1 said:

rogifan_new said:

I hate that the 4.7" iPhone gets treated like a second class citizen. Not everyone wants a phablet. Apple brought OIS to the 4.7" model. That leads me to believe bringing stuff to 5.5" model only isn't technical but for upsell purposes.

Fully agree. The 4.7" iPhone shouldn't the stepchild of the 5.5" model. When people buy Apple products, they're willing to pay a premium for the devices, so preference, not cost, is the deciding factor.
The two models should be equal in everything except size.

rogifan_new said:

I hate that the 4.7" iPhone gets treated like a second class citizen. Not everyone wants a phablet. Apple brought OIS to the 4.7" model. That leads me to believe bringing stuff to 5.5" model only isn't technical but for upsell purposes.

cali said:

mknelson said:

cali said:

Is Apple having a port identity crisis? Also notice these have headphone jacks. Aren't headphone jacks, like function keys, outdated technology?

Shouldn't Apple be pushing Lightning 2.0? Are problems arising with USB-C? What the hell is going on?

I think the lack of headphone jacks in the iP7 has more to do with improving the water resistance* and adding space for other components rather than any identity port crisis.

*most water resistant android phones with the jack still leak pretty badly.

That's not what Apple said. They said the jack was outdated and wireless was the future. Were they lying?

water resistant androids are crap I know that.

benjer said:

I understand the difficulty with buying adapters (and having them clutter your workspace), not to mention the cost. That alone will probably prevent me from buying a Mac with only USB-C/TB3 ports for a few years. I'm in the nonprofit world, and unless I really need the power that the new MacBook Pros provide, it would not be a good use of funds to buy a new MacBook Pro that also required extra money to get new adapters, peripherals, or both.