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  • Apple's iMac Pro model number pegged as 'A1862' ahead of expected Dec. launch

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    VRing said:
    macxpress said:
    Anyone know the price breakdown for the major components of this?  $5K is huge money, and critics will be all about the "Apple tax."  It would help to know that the processor costs $x, the video card costs $x, the 1TB SSD costs $x, etc.  Presumably Apple is earning a margin of near 30%, so I expect these components are surprisingly expensive (adding up to well over $3000).
    Many have tried to build a similar PC and have failed to do a fair comparison. The graphics cards in them are brand new (I think the reason for the Dec availability) as well as the Xeon processors are also new. Those alone are quite expensive. Since people cannot get their hands on these new AMD Vega/Vega Pro graphics they're trying to compare a PC with dual 1080TI graphics cards and thats not really a fair comparison in the end. Same goes for the CPU...many are just comparing the highest end current Core i7 which again, isn't a fair comparison. Even then, they come to about $4500 if I remember correctly. Again, that doesn't count in the design costs, assembly, shipping, sales costs, support costs, etc.

    Apple did one during the keynote with an HP Workstation and it was over $7,000. I think we'll have to wait a little bit when the parts become fully available for the public.

    What many fail to factor in when calculating a cost is the R&D, engineering, making the software all work efficiently, the OS, and any apps included, assembly, shipping, retail, support costs, etc. These are all factored into the cost of any product, yet people just go on PC Part Picker and price out the parts and think thats a fair comparison when its not.
    Apple iMac Pro ($5000)

    Intel Xeon (8 core / 16 thread)
    32 GB DDR4-2666 ECC
    1TB SSD
    Radeon Pro Vega 56 - 8 GB HBM2

    DIY PC ($3090 - everything except for a monitor, keyboard, mouse and OS)

    AMD Threadripper 1950X (16 core / 32 thread)
    32 GB DDR4-2133 ECC 
    1TB Samsung 960 EVO
    Radeon Vega Frontier Edition (Vega 64) - 16 GB HBM2

    pcpartpicker: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NGV9sJ

    The DIY build has a better CPU and GPU than the iMac Pro.

    By the time the iMac Pro launches, there will be even more price drops and other new products only a month or so away (look to CES).
    Actually the DIY does not necessarily have better CPU and GPU, since Xeon and Vega both are still unavailable commercially. They might be closer in terms of performance, but I bet the new ones have higher efficiency.
    xzu

  • First look: Apple's downtown Brooklyn store has custom floors, ceiling to dampen bustling ...

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    holyone said:
    Wait since when are the tables cordless, or am I just seeing things,


    There's no slinky cord under these, is this new ?


    The tables are custom made. The cords are through the legs to the floor underneath directly. There is a gap inside the table for trenching, each to individual devices through a small hole under the device stands.
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  • iWeb Succession

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    Wix, Weebly, Canva.
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  • First iPhone 8 teardown reveals few internal design changes [u]

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    allmypeople said:
    every time i hear about a battery the same size or smaller, i want to bash my head against a desk. I dont know how many ways over years Apple needs to hear that we want MORE battery life. Make you wonder if they ever get out into the real world where people are constantly looking to charge their iPhones.
    Size does no matter (that's what she said). It's all come down to quality, and Apple manage to add longer hours in their smaller package (https://www.tomsguide.com/us/iphone-8-battery-life,review-4677.html).
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  • Senator calls on Apple to address Face ID privacy concerns

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    a3dstorm said:
    I don't like the Face ID idea not so much for security reasons, but the fact that my phone is often resting on a table and I press the home button to see the CLOCK, or if I missed any notification, or battery status etc... picking the phone up and putting it right in front of my face ( If it works 100%, failed on Fred in the Demo) just for these quick glances seem like a step backward to me... A glass back, if you want to protect it with a case... no wireless charging. I'm really on the fence with this 'upgrade'. I think it's just trying too hard to innovate, not sure Steve would have been proud.
    Just to clarify, it didn't fail in the demo.
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