jbdragon

I think you have to be pretty clueless to bring your Vision Pro out into public and around with you.  It's a small $3500 device and you could easily get mugged for it.  Especially these days!!!  You are just asking for it.  

We have the whole chicken and the egg and what came first.  You need content for the device, but you need the device to buy that content.  At $3500 or close to $4K with tax, that is a huge investment, especially for a 1st gen product and with limited apps for it.  But if not enough people buy it, you're not going to get a bunch of sales let alone apps for it.

It looks like a cool device, but I can't justify buying it anytime soon.

Back with my first iPhone, the iPhone 4, upgrading it every year, well it got slower and slower over the years to where in the 4th year, I wanted to throw in against the wall at times.  That was with Apple's first CPU, the A4.   Then I got the iPhone 6, which when new was faster, and 4 years of that was a better experience.  I now have the iPhone Xs, and I'm into the 6th year of using it now.  I was going to Upgrade, but decided to wait yet another year.  This phone was more than fast enough NEW that even with iOS 17 running on it, it still runs just fine.

So will I upgrade to a new iPhone later in the year?  Normally I upgrade phones every 4 years.  Yet this one, I let it slide for a 5th year as all was fine, and here I am into the 6th year now.  Will it be time after the end of 6 years???  You never know, I could start a 7th year.  My phone still looks like new.  I'm running iOS17.4 currently.

Apple invented the iPhone and created that app store.  In fact,  the iPhone didn't even have an app store when it first came out.  Apple created and opened the app store a little later.  Apple had its rules and costs since day 1.   It wasn't sprung up on companies years later.  No one was forced to create any apps for the iPhone.  

These other companies should create their own platform and then open it up for everyone just like they want.  It's they platform, they can do what they want.  Instead they want to force things onto Apple.

Most of the things in the app store these days are FREE anyway.  Why does anyone think costs will drop?  I wish I could just spend a few dollars and buy a program outright.  Freemium content I think stinks.  These 3rd party companies make more money giving the app out for free and then charging you for whatever virtual crap so you can actually play the game.  3rd party app stores won't change that.  I doubt prices will drop much at all.  Apple's 30% cut of FREE is $0!!!

It seems people don't understand what games USED TO COST!!!!   It's was selling apps for cheap like $.99 cents but in huge volumes around the world were you could make money instead of selling at $59.99 to far fewer people.

This lawsuit should be tossed.  Even though I think Apple should allow some apps that they ban.  Network type apps for example are very limited because of Apple.  

Android phones in China where there is no Google, all there are is 3rd party stores and they're infested by viruses.

gatorguy said:

rax_mark said:

The EU, unlike the US, believes in the spirit of the law, instead of the word of the law, Apple should have realised that.

Apple cannot win this one by using legal loopholes. I suspect if this continues we may see one of two possibilities:-

I) Apple exits the EU.

II) The EU bans Apple within its borders.

I suspect Apple doesn't want to give up the European market to Samsung and Google, so the first one is highly dependent on whether Apple can still get a profit with side loading existing.

Of course they can make a profit, a major profit in fact. Few people will sideload, and Google has managed quite a few billion in profit from the Play Store despite several 3rd party app stores on the Android platform. This is all about Apple muscle-flexing and not any signifcant danger to profits nor security IMO

Where Google doesn't exist, CHINA, their app stores are infested with viruses and other garbage.