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  • Apple asks Foxconn to move iPad, MacBook production from China to Vietnam

    I see Apple is moving up, from doing business with a country that gets 2.26 (out of 10) on the democracy index (China) to a country that gets 3.06 (Viet Nam). I would much rather see Apple do its business in a higher scoring country, perhaps India (6.90) or Brazil (6.86.) I guess Apple's core values don't include freedom or democracy or human rights. Well, at least they aren't doing business with North Korea (1.08), or Saudi Arabia (1.93). I guess Apple wouldn't do business with Saudi Arabia because Apple has strong LGBTQ values.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index <--

    By the way, on environmental indexes, Viet Nam is near the bottom. Although India is even closer to the bottom.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_Performance_Index <--

    I couldn't care less what form of government a country chooses for itself.  
    I agree with that statement, but the problem is that people don't get to choose their own governments in dictatorships. So I infer you are against sanctions against North Korea, Iran, Venezuela, Cuba and Syria.

    The Chinese people, contrary to right wing propaganda, seem to be far happier with their government than we here in the U.S.  The Chinese aren't the ones talking about civil war, sending armed militias to invade state government houses and kidnapping their leaders -- or coups to overturn their government.

    Responsible, ethical leadership doesn't depend on the form of government.
    Chinese people can't so much text a friend their slight unhappiness about the government; they'll be quickly visited by a government official, at the minimum. I work with many chinese and this is true.

    You forgot about puttings lists together of members of the losing party so they can potentially be jailed, likely without trial.
    gatorguymobirdseanjGG1lkruppcornchipelijahgCreatsillity
  • Apple asks Foxconn to move iPad, MacBook production from China to Vietnam

    I see Apple is moving up, from doing business with a country that gets 2.26 (out of 10) on the democracy index (China) to a country that gets 3.06 (Viet Nam). I would much rather see Apple do its business in a higher scoring country, perhaps India (6.90) or Brazil (6.86.) I guess Apple's core values don't include freedom or democracy or human rights. Well, at least they aren't doing business with North Korea (1.08), or Saudi Arabia (1.93). I guess Apple wouldn't do business with Saudi Arabia because Apple has strong LGBTQ values.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index <--

    By the way, on environmental indexes, Viet Nam is near the bottom. Although India is even closer to the bottom.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_Performance_Index <--

    I couldn't care less what form of government a country chooses for itself.  And, as business people, Apple should be concerned with product quality and cost rather than politics.
    So if this were the 1940's and Apple was having their products built using Nazi concentration camp labor, you'd be cool with that?
    gatorguyseanjcornchip
  • Fix coming for iPhone 12 MFi hearing aid static issues

    This is true. My wife is an audiologist; her practice is not far from Cupertino and she has many Apple employees as patients. They've told her Apple is aware of the problem and is working on a fix. It's a constant issue, as you said, of Apple making software changes that mess up hearing aid connectivity.
    kitster
  • Twelve years later, Apple is still trying to erase mac.com email addresses

    I remember the days of buying cheap mobileme keys on eBay instead of paying full price. Thankfully that only lasted a few years before Apple made it completely free.
    baconstanghammeroftruthwatto_cobra
  • Apple reportedly pushes Foxconn to invest $1B to expand iPhone manufacturing in India

    6502 said:
    6502 said:
    Fatman said:
    I thought the same ...  why not the US! ... then read that 6000 new jobs would be created. Average factory pay in India is about $2/hr - some say even robot cost average $4/hr! As long as slave labor wages are an option, factories that need this many humans will not open in the US.
    Exactly right. Slavery is alive and well in this world. I thought Tim was better than this. Nope. All talk, no walk. When India gets too expensive, they'll build factories in Uganda.

    I am from India and i agree with @JWSC and @Avs_Htx on this. You SHOULD NOT apply US living standards to India when you evaluate a job opportunity in India. By Indian standards, these are decent paying jobs for those who get it. This is NOT slavery. Slavery by Indian standards is about getting paid 20 cents per hour of work. $2 per hour gives a decent living for the people who are desperate to get a job.
    Taking advantage of poor people's desperation, is not much different than slavery.
    "Taking advantage of poor people's desperation"?
    That's how the U.S. industrial might was built.   But, instead of using existing labor, they imported labor from whatever part of the world was doing poorly.   And, when they got uppity and did silly things like trying to create a union, they fired them and imported more.   It was slave wages, 12 hour days, 6-7 days a week of hard, dangerous work.  That method worked until Franklin Roosevelt came along -- then WW-II carried it out another decade and from there we just coasted, riding on the back of those who came before until Japan stepped in and put an end to it in the 80's.

    The U.S. has yet to come to grips with any of that.   Too much pride.

    Regardless of how the US was built, doesn't mean it is right to continue those practices today. Manufacturing and industrial unions have been around since the 50's. It was only 30 yrs ago when the largest employer was GM - high paying union jobs with safety and security. Today it is Walmart - low paying low skilled jobs because we outsourced all our manufacturing to China, India and Mexico (my Ford was made in Mexico, as are some Toyotas now). Who benefits from the cheap labor? It's not always the consumer, Apple's prices and profits are still sky high. The main beneficiaries are the executives whose bonuses are tied to profit and wall street.
    ronn