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iPhone must use USB-C by 2024, says EU law
Thanks for making me go back and checking this.FileMakerFeller said:
Depending on whether you meant TONS (2000 pounds) or TONNES (1000kg, ~2200 pounds) then it's either 0.0000429187561 pounds per person or 0.00002145937805 kilograms (~0.02 grams) per person.spheric said:
While I fundamentally believe that the government should absolutely get involved when things go south, I share your concern about what happens three years from now when a better connector shows up.thrang said:What if someone invents a better connector next year? Or: who would be motivated to think of something better?
It is deeply inappropriate for governments to get this granularly invasive in industrial product design. Moronic is the better way to describe it.It does give me pause that last year alone, chargers obsoleted by new phones apparently accounted for ELEVEN TONS of garbage in the EU.It's eleven THOUSAND tonnes (the difference between the metric and the mediaeval units is close enough to make ballpark figures interchangeable) through unused/obsoleted chargers per year in the EU, though that figure is not limited to phone chargers.Estimates are that this legislature will reduce e-waste by about 1000 tonnes per year within the EU. Since this will likely drive standardisation globally, and not just within the EU, the effects will be considerable — if just a drop in the ocean of total waste.
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iPhone must use USB-C by 2024, says EU law
That's a whole lot of words for "Yes, I agree that US regulations force European car manufacturers to build to their specifications and have been doing so for many decades." ;-)davidw said:
That's a poor example to compare to the EU forcing Apple to use the USB-C port on their devices, for the perceived benefit of reducing E-waste from chargers.spheric said:
That's probably the dumbest thing I'm going to read all day, I think.Madbum said:Do you mean like US regulators have been telling German manufacturers to build cars for many decades?
European version:
US version, with required double headlights and the ugly bumper-car bumpers completely ruining the gorgeous lines and the lightness of the design:
Fuckin' Commies, those Americans.
First of all […lots of interesting, but ultimately irrelevant — to the actual argument I was making — information snipped…]
But I do agree that the Euro Mercedes were much more "sleeker" looking than the US models of the same year.
The poor example was in the bullshit comment I was responding to, which simply and falsely claimed that this didn't happen.Also, the R 107 was built from 1971 to 1989, so whatever happened in 1980 was already a decade into production.I DO appreciate the informative content of your comment, mind. It's just missing the actual point of mine. -
iPhone must use USB-C by 2024, says EU law
The USB-C connectors are the single most flaky aspect of my 2016 MacBook Pro. They are kind of flimsy and prone to dirt and brief disconnections due to vibration onstage.s.metcalf said:
Maybe, but Apple were too late and didn’t make it before USB-C became dominant, and more specifically, they didn’t make Lightning open and free to use. They were too addicted to MFi royalties.chadbag said:
It is not a step forward. Lightning 2 would have been better.darkvader said:Took them long enough.Apple should have ditched the idiotic Lightning connector years ago. It's sad that it's taking the EU forcing them to finally take care of the problem.
Lightning was great and has maybe one advantage in being easier to insert. I’m sure Apple could’ve made a USB-C competitor, but that ship has sailed. USB-C is considered good enough, even for Apple to use on their laptops and iPads.The Lightning connector can fill up with pocket lint, but that's a toothpick away from working again. Not so easy with USB-C.
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iPhone must use USB-C by 2024, says EU law
That's probably the dumbest thing I'm going to read all day, I think.Madbum said:Do you mean like US regulators have been telling German manufacturers to build cars for many decades? European version:US version, with required double headlights and the ugly bumper-car bumpers completely ruining the gorgeous lines and the lightness of the design:Fuckin' Commies, those Americans.
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iPhone must use USB-C by 2024, says EU law
While I fundamentally believe that the government should absolutely get involved when things go south, I share your concern about what happens three years from now when a better connector shows up.thrang said:What if someone invents a better connector next year? Or: who would be motivated to think of something better?
It is deeply inappropriate for governments to get this granularly invasive in industrial product design. Moronic is the better way to describe it.It does give me pause that last year alone, chargers obsoleted by new phones apparently accounted for ELEVEN TONS of garbage in the EU.
