spheric

aaplfanboy said:

As a UK citizen I am so relieved we left the ghastly EU. They overreach on everything they do - it’s almost as if they are trying to prove to all other countries that they are the dominant force in world affairs. 

Illus1ve said:

By the way, the very same people want to impose USB-C on every laptop manufacturer from 2026 on. How do you think will this affect MagSafe?

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A perfectly valid option and nothing new. These kinds of fining systems have existed for years. The fines are both punitive and to deter.

Doesn't mean they're right or have legal jurisdiction outside their borders.

They have to right to revenues or actions taking place outside their borders - they're suffering from king of the world syndrome.

A person can get life imprisonment for a crime, they have no argument that they weren't intending on spending their whole life in that country.

It's called punitive damages.  It means multinational companies cannot treat fines as a cost of doing business.  There is no question of legal jurisdiction or right, it's a fine.  If the company wants to not pay the fine and completely withdraw from the EU then that's their prerogative.

Fines are usually just money makin' for the 'regulator'. The US could be quite a bit more vocal about this. Like, so you exert pressure on our businesses? Here's a 200% import duty on everything you sell until you reverse that decision. Bet they wouldn't last a day. 

Tit for tat doesn't usually lead to anything satisfactory to either side in a dispute. 

The US for example thinks it can unilaterally impose sanctions on sovereign nations and then extraterritorially enforce them as punishment for anyone that 'breaks' them.

That is exactly why the EU created its blocking legislation in 1996 with the aim of tackling those situations. 

This came back into focus in 2018 when the US decided to pull out of the Iran agreement and EU companies were caught in the political crossfire. 

Problem is, these political shenanigans tend to affect the consumers. European prices on Apple products are already through the roof. Yet who do you think is going to absorb all the extra costs that come with these initiatives? New cables? I never asked for it. Alternative App Stores? Again, never asked to degrade my user experience. ‘Enhanced’ ‘privacy’ through surrendering the data to people with questionable reputations (basically any politician)? They claim to be acting on behalf of the people, yet ‘the people’ seem to have no say in it whatsoever. 

Welcome to the concept of society.  You don't always get your own way with representative government.

So my point is: why cheer it then? Some posters were trying to justify its actions. Or did I get it wrong? 

Some people quite like data protection.  Others quite like single cable charging solutions or alternative app stores, and don't consider these things to be "shenanigans" at all.  You seriously think that no one wants these things?  Just because you don't means squat all.  As I said, you don't always get your own way.

Government agencies don’t like data protection, though. Wouldn’t it be naive to assume they were with the consumers on this? 

Madbum said:

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Madbum said:

This White House , which I regretfully voted For

is fast tracking our families  to a Nuclear War vs Russia….

is helping European Union bashing America’s greatest companies while doing nothing against European companies 



 a complete shit show in more ways than one ….

😂😂😂

I was waiting for someone to tie this into EU-bashing. 

Well, do you see EU bash their own companies? No they know how to protect their own and tax base.

but current American government stands with Europeans more than Americans ….