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hammeroftruth said:

It's free if it's within Apple's parameters of what they determine is wrong with it. Sometimes they might just replace keys, which IMHO just delays more problems to appear, when just replacing the whole topcase would've been better. 

These types of halfhearted repairs are what makes people not trust Apple and not want to buy their products again. Plus, they weren't as stingy when it came to replacing iPhone batteries and you better believe there were a good deal of iPhones that got their battery replaced when they didn't need to, especially iPhones still under warranty. 

Sure topcases are much more expensive than an iPhone battery, but who's idea was it to glue everything together so you can't just replace the keyboard on a MBPro? Not the consumer's.

If it wasn't for sites like Appleinsider to show the general public that there was a legitimate problem with these keyboards, you would have never seen a quality program created to fix the issue. 

StrangeDays said:

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seankill said:

Where’s the “no one needs 32GB of RAM” crowd? 
Clearly Apple thinks the customers need it........... 

The market demanded it, Apple listened. 

Or is because Intel is too slow so it doesn’t worth to wait another year.  DDR4 sounds more like a compromise.

Or is it because Apple wouldn’t design a custom controller (which they do constantly and do a wonderful job at it) and make the computer a little thicker, boosting the whr rating of the battery? 
Or just put the DDR4 in there with a little bigger battery. Sure it’s a compromise, that’s engineering. 
Sure, it’s Intel’s screw up but it can easily be designed out. 

You're right - engineering is always a compromise.

Apples compromise was to limit the RAM to 16GB and not have to put up with the additional battery drain or expense of designing a custom controller when a new Intel processor would soon support 32GB anyway. Who's to say which compromise is better?

The only reason it was a comprise was due to the fact Apple lowered the battery over 20% in the pursuit of thinness. How about go slightly thicker and not comprise on a working machine?

Sigh.

have you listen everything that I said?

But then, if you just wanna blaming on thiness for blaming on thiness, go ahead.

IMO, obsession with thinness and not having any "lines" in the case is the source of many of Apple's design issues.  If they weren't so obsessed with thinness and lines in the case, they could go back to having user-replaceable/upgradable memory, battery and storage as my late-2008 MBP had.   I would trade away thinness in a second to get those other attributes back and it also would have potential to improve battery life.   My late-2016 MBP never came close to getting advertised battery life until the last OS upgrade (currently running 10.13.5). For some reason, after that upgrade, battery life improved substantially.   Before that, I never got more than four hours. 

But using Apple's current design, they can force users to have to buy a new Mac every few years.   Apple was supposed to be better than this.

You seem to be ignoring the speed and performance benefits of using integrated components. They're faster and more reliable, that's a fact. That's what Apple is prioritizing, over DIY tinkering. This is perfect for me as I'm interested in weight and speed for my mobile, and have no interest in DIY tinkering. If you do, get a Dell and stop being an unhappy victim. What's stopping you?

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rogifan_new said:

Some of the complaints I’m seeing from people like Marco Arment are ridiculous and disingenuous. Complain about pricing, fine. But expecting Apple to basically revert back to the 2015/2012 design? Marco knows damn good and well Apple isn’t going to abandon a new design only a couple years after introducing it and certainly isn’t going to re-introduce ports that were removed. Also there is no evidence the keyboard issue was because of the butterfly design (John Gruber claims he heard it was due to a specific metal parts supplier issue) so people complaining about that are being disingenuous too. Especially considering most of them hated it to begin with. IMO the only valid complaints would be pricing and the non-TB model not being updated.