gilly017

dewme said:

This is a black eye on the CPSC. They should have insisted that Samsung provide sufficient peer reviewed evidence from the root cause failure mode analysis of the first round of defective exploding phones and the prescribed modifications before allowing the now possibly defective replacement phones to be imported. The speed at which Samsung was able to deliver the supposed "fixed" products into the sales channel leads me to believe that consumer safety is being short circuited for reasons known only to the CPSC and Samsung. Someone's not doing their job and consumer health and public safety is being compromised. Totally Unacceptable.

lkrupp said:

andrewj5790 said:

pscooter63 said:

How is this any different from a toy recall?  In other words, why is this company being given a blind eye?

Because they're not Apple.

Yep. The so-called Touch Disease lawsuits are being trumpeted all over the world by the tech media, including 9TO5MAC.  Not a peep about the exploding Samsung phones. No reports of law firms seeking victims to join a class action. No class action filings being reported. C|net is completely mum on the subject but that twink Brian Tong is bashing Apple on all fronts.

esoom said:

The sun came up this morning, the sky is blue and Samsung is still treating customers like crap.

uroshnor said:

Cornholieo said:

Uhh no. There are more OLEDs on phones in circulation than iPhones. Apple makes their money using old technology which can be purchased for cheap, then optimizing their software to run on these cheap machines that sell at a premium. HTC and Apple signed an agreement, which allows for the companies to copy each other, which is why so may iPhones have been adopting HTCs look. I just hope the new phone comes with HTCs DAC, which offers the best sound quality of any phone on the market. While iOS is more efficient on cheaper machines, I still gravitate to Android for its Customizability, versatility, and flexibility. I also don't like the idea of being trapped in an ecosystem, people should be allowed to chose default apps, and not have them chosen for them. I do hope that Apple learns that people are different, think different, and not just a bunch of lemmings.

So there's a pretty standard collection of meme's in that, but what the heck, I'll feed the troll:

1. Apple's IPS displays are't cheap & old tech. They routinely out-perform OLED in terms of colour range and correctness. That is kind of handy if you are shooting and editing photos on the camera. Third party supply chain analysis and third party screen analysis confirms this. 

2. Yes they are lower resolution than some Android phones. Problem is, they are already higher resolution than what most of the population can see at normal phone viewing distances. So going to a 4K screen mostly makes no difference except slower graphics (as the GPU is overloaded) , and the need for a bigger battery (due to the power drain). The one area where having a 4K screen does help is VR, , which right now is a very niche use-case (but it is important for a small fraction of users).

3. The chase screen size spec -> bigger battery -> bigger phone is a massive driver in many Android designs. Even high end Android phones might not be able to drive their screen at more than 15-20 FPS, whereas iPhones are in 60+. Because the Android vendors cheaped out on GPU.

4. Despite throwing 8 core CPU at the problem, Android phones still lag iPhone in CPU performance - even though A series CPU are usually 2 or 4 core. And that doesn't factor in that Apple ships GPU that crush virtually everything else on the market, AND makes it easy for the developer to use the GPU for general purpose computation  in conjunction with the CPU.

5. Apple believes that vertically integrated is a necessity, not a choice, so it's always going to be a walled garden of some sort.

6. The great thing about Android is choice. Or more correctly, the appearance of choice. Android is so diverse, anything you want to say about it it, is both true and false at the same time. 

7. There is one thing you can't choose with mainstream Android, and that's the product. Why ? Because the product is you. There are Android forks that don't treat the user as the product but they are without Google, and eitherr very expensive e.g. Boeing Blackphone, or borderline going out of business eg Silent Circle.

8. In most cases, the real customization & versatility comes from the Apps you run, not tweaking the user interface. There are't really equivalents to things like HealthKit, ResearchKit and CareKit on Android for example. Very frequently , if an App exists on both iOS, and Android, it has greater functionality on iOS. The value in being able to tinker, where Android is usually easier, applies to a much narrower slice of the population. 

9. Apple's Accessibility features are market leading, and vastly ahead of a Android.

if you can park the malware & privacy issues , and it works for you, then that's great. But the popularity of Android isn't driven by what it can do for the user. It's driven by what it can do for carriers, advertising companies , and handset vendors, at the expense of the user.

I'll stop channeling DED now.

tommikele said:

safi said:

The desire for constant growth needs to stop. Let Apple work out what it has to do and stop this ridiculous grow grow grow culture. Yes, I believe it probably won't sell as well as the 6S but this is a sign of strength for Apple. Rather than coming out with another gimmick design to boost sales, the company puts in thought and effort and withholds new products until they are perfect! Which other company does this? For fucks sake, leave Apple alone. I wish it would just become a private company and ditch these greedy leaches AKA shareholders. Cook/Ive are probably running the company long-term and not for these greedy leeches. 

What possibly makes you think it would be different if Apple were a privately held company? Where do you expect the $600 billion or more is going to come from to take them private? And you somehow think the whoever comes up with that will settle for smaller returns than Apple currently produces? Those "greedy leeches" you so easily criticize are the ones who own this company. People like you do not. If you don;tlie the direction your beloved Apple is taking then acquire a stake and speak out and marshal other owners to your side. You also make the classic mistake of focusing on the short term and analysts limited time span projections. Those pronouncements have some relevancy to the short term investor and traders. They have little relevancy to investors and those betting on the longer term future except where they may indicate longer term trends. I'll sum it up for you - You don't really understand investment versus short term and you should probably stick to tech and leave finance and securities alone. Additionally, you are not an owner of Apple and have no say. You do have an opinion and are entitled to that, but as the saying goes about assholes, everyone has one and they all stink.