DanielEran

philboogie said:

Wasn’t the gyroscope in the iPhone 4 three-axis?
http://www.memsjournal.com/2011/01/motion-sensing-in-the-iphone-4-mems-gyroscope.html

"In 2010, iPhone 4 delivered the first smartphone with a 3-axis gyroscope. Coordinated with accelerometer tilt sensors and the digital compass, this gave the phone 6-axis motion sensing and rotation about gravity, enabling a new level of spatial awareness in games and utility apps. "

gatorguy said:

Soli said:

gatorguy said:

At least the new Pixel's are guaranteed at least three years of OS updates,  Android P, Q and perhaps even R in addition to the very latest Oreo version they'll ship with.

1) As we've seen before with Android-based vendors, they'll make promises about updates and then say it won't or can't happen down the road long after the sales have been made. When you say "guaranteed" are they giving all buyers a contract that will give them a full refund if they don't get updates up through 2020?

2) You always argue that Android doesn't need OS updates because they get app updates via Google Play. So why do OS updates matter at all then, much less with a "guarantee" from Google?

1. Google isn't exactly like a typical Android vendor. As for guarantees I would assume that buyers would have the same recourse as an Apple purchaser who doesn't receive a guarantee that Apple offers. 

2. You putting words in my mouth Soli. While many of the newest Android features can be offered to nearly all active Android handsets via  Google Play or Play Services I don't recall anyone ever saying that full OS updates aren't beneficial and appreciated as well, and certainly no one ever said full OS updates have no value...

and if someone did say any of that, the "someone" was not me.  

Google actually is a typical Android vendor. Two years ago it shipped Nexus 6 and Nexus 9, yet neither are supported by ARCore, its attempt to throw out a competitor to ARKit. Apple's AR software works on iPhone 6s, which came out the same year as those models. They don't even get the current Android O, which is equivalent to iOS 11. Apple supports iOS 11 all the way back to iPhone 5s, which came out in 2013 when the "best Android phones" were Moto X, Nexus 5 and Galaxy S4.

Those models were cut off at Android 5 L, apart from Nexus, which got an Android 6 M update, at least two years fewer than iPhone 5s buyers (so far!)

Google has also promised a lot of things in the past, including that Android licensees would get on board to support phones for at least a year and a half (18 months) back in 2011. That didn't happen. 

And yes, you do keep saying updates don't matter because Google Play can deliver new software. Except that didn't happen for ARCore. 

ranman2017 said:

StrangeDays said.

Didn't read the article and its fact-based observations, claims its biased nonetheless. Classic.

I read every word of it and I'll say it straight up.  But of course it's biased.  It's written by an Apple fan and no, it's not all 'fact-based'.

You can’t refute anything because you’re so pressed for time, but you do have the free time to post pages of your opinion that ramble on and on. 

Appears you do have time, just nothing interesting to say. 

nht said:

jbdragon said:

I just really find it funny that Google just 1 year ago on last models phones where bashing APple for not having a Headphone jack, and now here they are with no headphone jack. They have a Adapter that's more then DOUBLE the price of Apple's at $20, to Apple's $9. Worse they don't even include some headphones. I mean really??? A so called Premium phone, and all they do is throw in a over priced Adapter. HAHAHAHAHA You're paying more for less. What happened in this new warped world where Google's hardware costs are worse then Apple?

Android zealots are so anti-Apple that in many ways it deeply resembles politics in America. 

Likewise, quite a few folks here are so anti-Google that Apple working with Google in any way doesn't compute.

Based on the folks I know at Google and Apple, there is a level of shared respect among elites despite the rivalry that the rabid fans don't get and never will because they won't ever be elites at anything...

The folks that work at Google and Apple are some of the very best tech folks in the country.  Their suckiest tech contributions are far better than DED's best.

I've made more money than Project Ara. 

rogifan_new said:

Is there a reason this article is listed as a feature and not an editorial? The paragraph below isn’t fact it’s opinion. In fact the whole article feels like a let’s dump on Google because it will make people here feel good. If these phones are DOA and so inferior to iPhone why give them so much ink?

That's the prices Google has set for its pedestrian Pixel 2 XL, a phone that lacks the sophisticated hardware, the serious software, the enterprise credibility and the attractive design of an iPhone 8 Plus. Pixel 2 XL, along with its mismatched Pixel 2 built by HTC, look like a couple of plastic, abandoned refrigerators, not sleek smartphones. 

Go bang your angry fists at the Verge, where this is considered "news"