DanielEran

rogifan_new said:

So it's curious because The iPad didn't score #1? Hasn't Apple been #1 with this survey before?

I don't think of Surface as a tablet but I guess because it's multi touch and the keyboard is detachable it's classified as such. 

Curious in that JD Power has been doing this for 6 years, and each report is based on a different set of criteria. Microsoft Surface wasn't in previous reports (despite being more of a tablet 2012-2014 before canceling the whole ARM WinRT thing. Microsoft bills Surface Pro as a MBA competitor.

Eric_WVGG said:

This is one of the rare instances where I find myself disagreeing with old DED.

Coincidentally, there is another company that also has aspirations in self-driving vehicles, which likes to talk about the future of AR and VR, which is rapidly expanding its own Deep Learning, Machine Learning and AI initiatives and which invented and open-sourced the first mainstream cross-platform API for GPGPU (OpenCL). That's Apple. 

This only makes sense if most applications of deep learning (to use as a shorthand for all this sort of thing) are consumer based. Much of it will be in markets that Apple either consciously has no aptitude for or simply doesn’t care about — I don't see them resurrecting the Xserve brand for selling Apple GPUs by the rack to Palantir or even IBM.

Furthermore, even in consumer space, nVidia would do just fine. Let's imagine a future where self-driving cars follow the smartphone market, where Apple sells a profitable 30% of vehicles and let's just say Toyota sells an unprofitable 70%. In this analogy, nVidia is not Toyota, it is a combination of Foxconn, Samsung (who sells silicon to both Apple and the entire Android space), and ARM itself. That's not a terrible place to be in!

It's useful to look at where Nvidia actually makes its money: http://investor.nvidia.com/secfiling.cfm?filingID=1045810-17-27

$5.8B of its $6.9B in total annual revenues are from "GPU," 75% of which come from PC desktop users, leaving a quarter for all of its Tesla/data center stuff. 

So the exciting server/AI stuff "Apple doesn't care about" amount to just $1.45b annually. 

The $0.8B slice counted as "Tegra" includes the remains of tablets and all automotive . That's pretty small potatoes anyway you slice it. 

Remember how "alarming" it is that ~60% of Apple's revenues come from iPhone? Well 63% of Nvidia revenues come from PCs. No amount of flashy car, server and AI hand waving changes that. 

Now, perhaps Nvidia can radically pivot to own new car/AI/ML markets. History shows it couldn't in mobile, despite trying valiantly. 

thinkman@chartermi.net said:

Original concept images - very interesting! Hard to comment of the redesign, as there are no images of the interior. I'll save my invaluable judgement for the time those are revealed.

There's a link to additional renderings, but most are of the outside and not very exciting. The interior / Green Loop renderings mostly portray lots of fictitious people http://www.mv-voice.com/news/2017/03/07/tonight-decision-time-for-googles-futuristic-campus

crowley said:

Seriously, who cares? 
if you think this is a sign that Google is in trouble then you're as nuts as anyone who would think Apple were in trouble given the same news.

Google are fine, Apple are fine, and this Draco-Balboa grudge match the tech press wants to forment is non-existent. They're healthy competitors, and they push each other to be better. Be grateful for that.

Just like Palm was fine. And Microsoft was fine. And Motorola was fine. And Nokia was fine. And Xiaomi was fine. Companies don't go out of business as long as they have people posting their defenses in online comments!

AI_lias said:

Wow, that's one more edition since 2013 than Mac Pro... Google is fickle with hardware.

Google released two versions of Chromebook Pixel

Over the same period, Apple released Early 2013, Late 2013, Mid 2014, and the Early 2015 & Mid 2015 models, and then released the completely new Late 2016 MPBs.