civa

PDRPRTS said:

normang said:

The cart vendor has a choice, if he wants to be in the mall, he has to pay the fee that the mall requires to be there to use "their" space.   Your trying to create fairness where there is none, you can compete or you cannot.. If you decide to setup a cart in a saturated market, you had better be able to market and show that you have a far superior product, or your going to fail..    

Epic has no valid case..  They are trying to upend the app store, and in the process even if somehow they succeeded, its unlikely that things would really improve for anyone else..   It would merely show that if you legally force your will on someone its no different than totalitarianism I assume you decry.. 

normang, you dont understand i agree with you. in what concerns the mall there is no question whatsoever you are right.. but beyond your point, there is no choice outside the mall. you either sell in the mall or you cannot sell at all. that is illegal under classic anti-trust laws. thing is the world is very different from when they were put in place. this case will inevitably prompt a long due revision.

if i was a seller i would even choose myself to be in the mall, as i believe it is a good deal and i do not think 30% is a high fee. but the fact that one cannot sell outside of the mall artificially is illegal regardless of our opinion.. if an app works on a device but cant because of barriers created to prevent this for comercial reasons, this barrier is illegal - it is a fundamental aspect of anti-trust laws.

Apple says it is not for comercial reasons, that it is protecting its users - ok, it is a valid point.. but one that never arose before in anti-trust cases.. for much less Microsoft was condemned in the browser war times. totalitarism is essentially "my way or the highway", and this is what you are defending.. i could agree with you in the case of the App Store, but how can you justify this in the case of App installation on iOS? You see when "my way" is our way that all seems fine, but if this case goes through in time we might be prevented from financial survival unless we are a corporation. it is not a small thing in the long run. you might be able to bake cakes and not be able to do this because some large bakery doesnt think you bake safe, or worse, doesnt want competition.

BGnATC said:

civa said:

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9secondkox2 said:

There certainly is a picture forming of yet another multifaceted and coordinated attack on Apple. 

Apple is poised to turn the entire industry on its head and absolutely dominate in all areas of computing. 

They’ve been THE software leader. And they’ve been the hardware leader on the phone and tablet side. 

They’ve been the App Store and business leader. 

And now they will tie it all together and press the lightspeed button with Mac hardware. 

Intel being dumped by Apple would tank them by itself, but the new popularity of the Mac fefinitely hurt them. Especially with Mac customers opting often for higher end CPUs. 

Now we see intel doing some face saving announcements like... GPUs. LOL

NO one on earth cares about Intel CPUs. 

There is nothing new. Intel is the same. AMD is doing well in x86 land. 

But... the writing is in the wall. The days of x86 dominance is over. Apple Silicon will own x86 in every category. 

And we will see others move from x86 if intel and AMD can’t innovate to compete. 

Gp, Dell, Samsung, Sony, razed, IBM, etc. will be stuck with slower processors and bulky, compromised designs while Apple moves on to far superior performance and greater degrees of design freedom. 

No one in the industry wants Apple to do what they are doing. They are ALL scared. Even Microsoft is reduced to complaining and trying to sue in court. Epic is reduced to complaining that they aren’t allowed to steal. 

Intel is reduced to pushing integrated GPU tech. And literally no one has a clue what to do. 

Apple has been DESIGNING their own CPUs for a while now. They purchased the best CPU design team known to man in P. A. SEMI from the end of the PowerPC days And have only grown in expertise since. Apple designs easily outperform the best ARM processors (as well as custom designs from Samsung etc) As well as popular x86 processors and that is in Highly constrained mobile devices. Notebooks and desktops open things up considerably. 

Apple controlling every component of their products is the stuff of dreams. No one else can do it. 

That’s why everyone is scared and basically rioting to ty to tear down Apples success. 

Come a looooong way from Michael Dell suggesting Apple be liquidated and the proceeds go to shareholders. 

The industry and many need outlets like msnbc and yahoo have been Anti-Apple for a long time. 

But it doesn’t natter. Apple doesn’t look at them. They simply keep striving to build the best products on the plant and being fueled by the salty tears of their detractors.