6Sgoldfish

Well, at least we'll have predictive emojis 3 times as big to distract us from the ugliness of our "new" iPhones. I can't even. It's been 2 years since the release of iPhone 6, the year Apple had also hired legend industrial designer Marc Newson to work alongside Johny Ive. 2 years of futuristic patents, impossible profits and some of the best R&D a company can afford. This is the result? Really? Where is all the industrial design prowess dedicated to? Certainly not the iPhone or the Mac. For a company that's been criticised for favoring aesthetics over function, it doesn't seem to be paying attention to either. 

Apple, what's happening to you?  

melgross said:

macxpress said:

Its also outdated along with the Mac mini, and MacBook Pro(s). The entire lineup with the exception of the MacBook is a real problem. Maybe your daughter sees it as fine, but you cannot deny their lineup is getting long in the tooth. Its not just the Mac lineup itself, but also the accessories for the Mac as well. When was the last time the 27" Thunderbolt display was updated? Why not release another display and make the 27" cheaper? When was the airport lineup updated (about 2yrs ago so you don't have to look)? 

Why has the iMac used the same basic design since 2007 when the original aluminum iMac was released? Why hasn't the MacBook Pro changed its design since it was introduced back in 2008? I see this as a very stale design now. Apple never used to be like this. Its lost its focus on the Mac platform to focus on other things like iOS devices and watches. 

My daughter is a 25 year old professional fashion and product photographer who also does professional video editing. The 27" iMac is considered to be one of the best computers for those tasks, and has one of the best screens. The iMac doesn't have the same design as when it came out in 2007.

the Macbook Pro isn't outdated either. It gets it's yearly upgrades, and will be getting them soon. The Mini is a strange duck. It's very,popular in hotels, big hotel casinos and cruise ships, all of which can use doesn't to hundreds. It's become more of a specialty device than a consumer device.

I'm not sure you know much about what you're talking about here.

Good for your daughter, is she the only individual informing your opinion? What software does she use?

melgross said:

6Sgoldfish said:

@melgross, you know exactly what he's talking about. Instead, you're being condescending and presume ignorance of those who disagree with you. It's common knowledge, like the RAM ports on the 27" iMac, that by now the Macbook Pro, iMac, Mac Mini and Mac Pro have gotten long in the tooth.

Video market, you say? Funny, because spec-wise iMacs have crappy overheating laptop dGPUs stretched to address the needs of a 5K display (or no dGPUs at all), MacBooks (all but the high-end 15" MacBook Pro) only have iGPUs (with the dGPU in the top end 15" MBP being very mid-range) and Mac Pro has a workstation GPU that was OK-ish even during the time it was released. Graphics & video professionals are willing to pay extra for a premium product, but when they feel ripped off they won't hesitate to go elsewhere. And they already are. Unless your daughter does matte painting on NUKE or Rhino v-ray mockups for a production studio on her iMac, I'd suggest you revisit the validity of your statement.

Macs were beasts until just recently. They were mostly used for graphics and video editing for a reason. Nowadays, however, Apple seems to be 1) exclusively focusing on iOS devices, 2) falling into the trap that design is merely about aesthetics -and rose gold. I'm tentatively optimistic for WWDC, but I'm certainly not holding my breath.

Oh please, don't start with me. You're being a wise guy here. Do t do it. 

I'm not being wise any more than you're being purposefully obtuse. And I doubt the "purposefully" part.

melgross said:

hjmnl said:

Well they came out very late in comparison to the competition. Not talking about no Mac Pro since 2013 or soldered ram in the iMac with 5400 rpm!!!! hard drive. Premium prize usually means better in any way. Not ripping your loyal customers off. They've lost the video market, what's next?

The Mac Pro is the only real problem I see here. You have plenty of choices with iMacs. I just bought my daughter a new late 2015 27" iMac, with a 1TB SSD. There are 4 memory slots, which you should know, if you knew anything about these iMacs. They haven't lost the video market.

@melgross, you know exactly what he's talking about. Instead, you're being condescending and presume ignorance of those who disagree with you. It's common knowledge, like the RAM ports on the 27" iMac, that by now the Macbook Pro, iMac, Mac Mini and Mac Pro have gotten long in the tooth.

Video market, you say? Funny, because spec-wise iMacs have crappy overheating laptop dGPUs stretched to address the needs of a 5K display (or no dGPUs at all), MacBooks (all but the high-end 15" MacBook Pro) only have iGPUs (with the dGPU in the top end 15" MBP being very mid-range) and Mac Pro has a workstation GPU that was OK-ish even during the time it was released. Graphics & video professionals are willing to pay extra for a premium product, but when they feel ripped off they won't hesitate to go elsewhere. And they already are. Unless your daughter does matte painting on NUKE or Rhino v-ray mockups for a production studio on her iMac, I'd suggest you revisit the validity of your statement.

Macs were beasts until just recently. They were mostly used for graphics and video editing for a reason. Nowadays, however, Apple seems to be 1) exclusively focusing on iOS devices, 2) falling into the trap that design is merely about aesthetics -and rose gold. I'm tentatively optimistic for WWDC, but I'm certainly not holding my breath.

melgross said:

macxpress said:

Apple give attention to the Mac? Hahahahaha!!!!

Its their forgotten platform!

Is that why they came out with an entirely new MacBook last year?

The "new" Macbook is a trinket amidst a sea of forgotten hardware. This does NOT a comprehensive Mac strategy make.