tele1234

icoco3 said:

tele1234 said:

It's frightening to see so many people willing to sacrifice all their consumer rights just so that they can elevate their brand loyalty and corporate allegiances further. I've seen some pretty questionable things posted on this site before in nothing but the name of elevating Apple onto some kind of pedestal, but this is something else. I really do wonder how many people here are posting ironically, or are they posting what they genuinely believe?

If I buy a phone, from any company, or product or whatever, it is mine. It is not Apple's to decide what my interests are, in the name of security or otherwise. It's my phone, and I can do what the hell I damn well please with it. If Apple decides that isn't the case, then it's their duty to refund me, or best case scenario - educate me, as a consumer, and tell me options. See similar cases: Sony removing Linux support from the PS3 for "security", intel being able to brick laptops for "safety" or more recently, Microsoft forcing auto-updates in windows 10 for "security". This is no different.

I don't care for what reason Apple is doing it, claiming it's for security or some hidden agenda, right or wrong, it is not their place to decide what's best for people who purchase their devices, that's up to the users - however misinformed they may be. We don't live in a corporate oligarchy, we live in a free country and Apple getting away with this bullshit is just taking us further down the road doing nothing but harming consumer interests.

Then buy an Android based phone and go troll somewhere else.

It's not about owning an android or an iphone, it's about companies having respect for the free will of their consumers.

It's frightening to see so many people willing to sacrifice all their consumer rights just so that they can elevate their brand loyalty and corporate allegiances further. I've seen some pretty questionable things posted on this site before in nothing but the name of elevating Apple onto some kind of pedestal, but this is something else. I really do wonder how many people here are posting ironically, or are they posting what they genuinely believe?

If I buy a phone, from any company, or product or whatever, it is mine. It is not Apple's to decide what my interests are, in the name of security or otherwise. It's my phone, and I can do what the hell I damn well please with it. If Apple decides that isn't the case, then it's their duty to refund me, or best case scenario - educate me, as a consumer, and tell me options. See similar cases: Sony removing Linux support from the PS3 for "security", intel being able to brick laptops for "safety" or more recently, Microsoft forcing auto-updates in windows 10 for "security". This is no different.

I don't care for what reason Apple is doing it, claiming it's for security or some hidden agenda, right or wrong, it is not their place to decide what's best for people who purchase their devices, that's up to the users - however misinformed they may be. We don't live in a corporate oligarchy, we live in a free country and Apple getting away with this bullshit is just taking us further down the road doing nothing but harming consumer interests.

staticx57 said:

tele1234 said:

Why does every article which mentions how horrible and bad it is that the version numbers aren't universally highest across android also fail to mention that API upgrades are done independently of the OS/Kernel version and reach back further than Apple's support for iOS?

Because it is contrary to DED clickbait

I'm beginning to think AppleInsider is nothing but clickbait, they misreport things like this and get two breeds of people - mindless fandroids defending them, and the equally mindless apple fanboys praising it.

Why does every article which mentions how horrible and bad it is that the version numbers aren't universally highest across android also fail to mention that API upgrades are done independently of the OS/Kernel version and reach back further than Apple's support for iOS?

sog35 said:

And yet GoPro has a PE of 12 while Apple has a PE of 7.

Wall Street still views GoPro as having a brighter future than Apple.

Why don't you go join in with the rest of the Apple investors and buy up to $130, then short it all the way back to 90? It's a great stock to ride that train with and you make profit both ways.

I swear to god that's all wall street is doing.