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danvm said:

nolamacguy said:

mystilleef said:

Specs don't matter. User experience does.

The Pixel is a vessel for Google's AI and Machine learning prowess.

And right now, you'd be hard-pressed to find a phone with a better AI and multimedia experience than the Pixel.

This is why the Pixel is better than any phone Apple has created. And will continue to be better than any Phone Apple will create moving forward.

Unless of course, AI and Machine Learning is just a fad.

so you've used the device? you can buy movie tickets exceptionally well?

and why on earth would you believe it impossible for any other firm to do better than google in this relatively new area of mobile computing? hogwash. 

You are right.  I think too that other companies, like Amazon, MS and Facebook, are capable of match or being better than Google in AI and Machine Learning.  Apple?  Not sure about them.  Based in what they have done with Siri recently and how slow they have react to cloud computing, data centers and Machine Learning, I don't see them being an important part of this market. 

And I don't think Machine Learning and AI are a "new area of mobile computing".  Mobile users benefit from it, but it's a lot more than a that.

Actually, Apple can do just as well or better than anyone else in AI with the possible exception of Amazon. Amazon and Apple have very high quality data on their customer bases. Google has to extrapolate data based on search requests on the iOS user base. Monetizing the Android userbase is far less lucrative. Amazon has actual purchasing patterns and has essentially locked Google completely out from obtaining data on their prime members. With Apple, they are trying to balance privacy issues with data acquisition. They are moving slowly, but it doesn't mean that they aren't working on AI. While I would like to see Siri become a better assistant, I much prefer that Apple honor my privacy as they have done. Apple is figuring out how to anonymize the data so that they can use it meaningfully. They are behind in data analytics but will rapidly catch up. They have the most important userbase and large numbers of Chinese also on iOS. Something that Google does not have access to. Apple's GPU technology is far better than Google's. And machine learning depends much more on the GPU. Amazon and Facebook are going to destroy Google's ad revenues. And the company will flounder. Apple has the luxury of time. GOOGL does not. They have to make Google assistant a success while they can. Before Amazon's Alexa takes over. I know that I will purchase a fire tablet just to get Alexa. A far better investment than the ridiculously expensive Pixel.

xweaponXI said:

Geez, the comments on this post are comical. The pixel XL has a better display, but lacks water resistance. Other then that, the phone is pretty damn identical to the iPhone. These clowns mocking the build, remember, HTC did it first. The contract Apple pushed to get with HTC to use the design says it all. Man, where is the knowledge at. A bunch of fanboys sucking Apple stems. And this article is Inaccurate Ina. Few places. But I'm sure those who pay attention. To facts already know. Good on you guys.

Haibane said:

Lets see... so you're posting misinformation on at least two things.
Its 4GB not 3GB.
It does have OIS, in fact they spent a significant amount of time on that feature.
As a user of both phones, I find this to be a very difficult choice between the two.
You should really double check your sources cause they are wrong.

Where are you getting your information? Multiple websites and sources including the Android sites all state there is no optical image stabilization. You might be confusing electronic image stabilization which is a software feature and significantly inferior to OIS. In the real world, phones with OIS take much better pictures especially accounting for movement or low light situations. I have a 6S and I will wait for the 7S/8. I already have an Amazon echo and the Google assistant offers nothing that Alexa doesn't already provide. I don't use Siri these days as the latency is annoying and she does not recognize my words much of the time. I don't see Google assistant as being a killer app that drives adoption of the device. I see the product selling to a small group of Google enthusiasts while the vast majority of the public purchases less expensive Samsung and LG devices.

TechEnthusiast said:

Wow this crowd is harsh! Welp color me a fool then because I use Android here. And it's not about the money. But I see where people may think it's cheap. To each their own. But it's crazy that some of you criticize the look of the phone when the 6 and 7 took cues from HTC's line. Also, wasn't it your fearless leader that said stealing ideas is a smart thing to do? Jeeze, even the documentaries show you how much of a douche he was and how much he wanted to limit customer choice. You couldnt even open the mac computer without special tools. Sounds like socialism if you ask me. But I digress... 

Listen, I respect iPhone bc they have a great ecosystem and their products just work. I get that. But I primarily use Google services and I've used Android back when I use to tinker, a lot. I've seen it mature into a great OS. I don't get mallard, it's runs smooth (Nexus 6p) and I really don't have complaints. To call someone cheap is unfair and some of your thought processes are off the wall. I choose to embrace the differences bc it makes both stand out in particular ways. 

As for the Pixel, I really dig the camera and unlimited storage. As well as the pros all assistant. Not a fan of the look so I would keep it in a case. And it has a headphone jack... Which is kinda awesome and still convenient. If it performs as well as my Nexus then I won't complain. 

Some of you need to just chill out. 

Spending $649 for the Pixel is still ridiculous. The camera doesn't come with optical image stabilization. So good luck getting high quality photos unless you put the phone on a tripod. Google should have used the smaller photo sensor and included OIS. I guess they just wanted better specs. The CPU runs half the speed of the iPhone. It does come with an OLED panel but not difficult to include with the volumes this going sell at. We are a tough crowd when it comes to Google and all things Android. Just like the Pixel, Android is a flagrant copy of iOS. And it really isn't okay. Amazon has patented one click purchasing. A far simpler and less complicated process than a mobile OS. Yet no one copies the simple Amazon feature yet flagrant copying of the iPhone and iOS are just fine. And Google charging for its phone as if it is as in the same category as the iPhone is laughable. For the technology this phone has, it really should be selling around 300 to 350. Because that is all it is worth. I am waiting to see if the batteries in that phone will remain stable with that incredibly fast charging protocol. It will be interesting to see it all play out.

Samsung's purchase of Viv is a game changer. Not so much for Apple. It's is huge game changer for Alphabet/Google. 

Samsung has no plans on using Google Assistant and Google has made its own intentions clear in using Google assistant to drive sales of its own Pixel phones. 

Samsung, is a far more capable hardware manufacturer than Google. In fact, outside of China, Samsung is the dominant Android OEM. 

Even with the exploding battery issue, Samsung will right the ship. It will hurt them, but they will be back. The Exxon Valdez spill didn't end the company and neither did the BP spill. Boeing's 787s had batteries that caught fire also. 

With Samsung using Viv instead of the Google assistant, Google loses access to the data generated. Google could potentially lose access to substantial quantities of data generated by Samsung's Galaxy line of devices. Samsung very likely is developing its own search engine and AI program. Or they may use Bing like Amazon's Alexa. It is very unlikely that they will use Google search given Google's competitive intent. Much like Amazon's decision to use Bing. 

Google is going to lose in a major fashion. They made some big mistakes in going after Samsung. They made big mistakes with respect to Apple, Facebook and Amazon also.

For AI to be fully realized, access to high quality data and lots of it is necessary. The loss of Samsung is going to put a major chokehold on the company. Never mind the Verizon takeover of Yahoo. Verizon now owns a property in which search ads generate revenue. Verizon will very likely install Yahoo as the default search engine on every phone that they can. Another major source of data inaccessibility and loss of search generated revenue. 

Google is in trouble and it's very real and tangible. They may be fine for the next two fiscal quarters, but as Verizon ramps up the search engine changes, it's going to impact Google's bottom line. And when Samsung releases the S8 with Viv, it's going to hurt them further. 

Samsung and Verizon are releasing the ICBM headed right for Mountain View. Apple didn't need to go thermonuclear. Google's partners are taking care of that task. 

Why Google didn't buy Viv and Yahoo to keep them out of the hands of their competitors eludes me. Didn't Google with all of their smart people know what Verizon was planning? A network company acquires a company based on search? And didn't Google know that Samsung would make a competitive play against Google Assistant? Google spent billions on Nest and Motorola mobility. They could have spent the capital on Yahoo and Viv. 

This all is good news for Apple. Google will cease to be a major OS competitor in a few years. Samsung will remain a competitor but one that is willing to coexist much like all of the automakers coexist. Google wants to own everything. And that attitude is going to bring them to ruin. 

Instead of partnering strategically for the long term, they steal their partner's ideas and launch competing products. Android against iOS. Pixel against the Galaxy. Google+ against Facebook. Google Home against Amazon's Echo. Google cloud against AWS. Google daydream against Oculus. Google fiber against AT&T's Giga Power. Amazon and Apple compete in a limited fashion. Apple virtually doesn't compete with Facebook. Apple and Samsung do compete in a major fashion. But Google takes the cake. They are trying to compete in a major fashion simultaneously with Apple, Amazon, Microsoft, Facebook, and now Samsung. Verizon had also moved to compete with Google also. 

This is beginning to take on the appearance of a rout. And Google isn't going to fare well.