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tzeshan said:

sog35 said:

This is friken RIDICULOUS.

All Samsung phones need to be confiscated from all flights. PERIOD.

They need to be collected and stored in an air tight/fire proof safe for the entire flight.


These phones are as dangerous as dynamite. 
Why the HELL is the govt not doing anything?

Many people don't know Android phones are much superior to iPhones.  Google Android phones are capable of doing multi-tasking even in the background.  They think if Android phones are not in use then there is no danger of overheating.  Apparently Samsung proved the government and the media are idiots.  

Android is NOT superior to iOS even with background multi tasking. And the phone in question was powered off. If android is actually running in the background when a phone is powered down, then I will admit that android is truly superior, in that it can run without a power source. And if the OS is still running utilizing the battery when a phone is powered down, it is a massive OS design flaw. It would mean the only way really to shut phone down would be to fully exhaust the battery. So much for saving the battery on an Android phone when it is powered down. The OS is still running anyway and performing multiple tasks draining the battery so that when it is powered up, half the battery life is gone. 

Fast charging lithium batteries is fraught with risk anyhow. It was even a problem for Boeing's 787.  

Android much superior to iOS. LOL. That's a good one. 

sog35 said:

lkrupp said:

We recently read about a battery test that showed the iPhone had the worst battery life. Of course many real world users disputed that but it’s starting to look like the race to get better battery life caused Samsung to cut corners, push engineering over the edge. Will this be the issue that makes Samsung Jump The Shark? 

I think fast charging is the actual problem

There is a reason why Apple has not adopted it yet

Google is making a big deal about fast charging regarding their new Pixel. The Pixel hasn't been shipped, but time will tell. 

boredumb said:

anantksundaram said:

Google just doesn't seem to get the fact -- despite repeated attempts and failures -- that hardware is a different ballgame altogether. You've got to manage up and down a huge value chain, all the way from dealing with suppliers, to logistics, to quality control, to shipping, to customer service, to dealing with returns, to etc etc. ("Those who don't remember the past..." and all that...). Apple has been doing this since the late '70s. 

Cue another boring rerun. Yawn.

Well, they certainly have that in common with Amazon...perhaps also with MS..?

Google is not in the same category as either of the two companies you mention. The Kindle and Echo are outstanding products. Even Woz has great things to say about the Echo device. Microsoft did burn through a lot of cash with the XBox, but they managed to break through with the device. Google has no successful hardware product. Not a single one. Glass failed. Motorola mobility was a huge loss. Nest has been a failure. Chromebooks do not sell except to schools and then the pupils are spied upon.  The Nexus does not make a profit.  

Try again with the comparisons. Google has no focus and no discipline. They need a lot of both to break into hardware. Both Amazon and Microsoft are far more focused and disciplined. 

Thank you jbdragon, iaeen2, and rs1919 for explaining how size matters in the function of the transistors in a CPU with respect to power consumption and performance. 

I myself am amazed at the progress that has been made. So much in so short time that the designers and engineers are running into trouble with the laws of physics. 

That being said, TSMC is ahead of all others in chip fabrication. As Intel and Samsung catch up as they will because the transistors are hitting the limit in terms of size and shrinkage, TSMC will be able to continue to "tweak" their facilities for greater yields and lower cost. Apple will have ongoing access to TSMC's most advanced developments and should be able to stay ahead of everyone else. They have essentially passed Intel. 

I do see 12 nm FDSOI making a big splash as the power consumption is much lower than the latest FinFet designs with very good performance. The Chinese are betting big on the technology and companies that rely on software only are going to be in for a rude awakening as the Chinese leverage a hardware edge to take over the market. It is very likely the reason that Google is so keen to get into hardware. They better assemble a chip design team fast, because a day is coming when Huawei and Xiaomi sell phones that do not come with Google Play. 

Apple will still be in a good spot and could always take advantage of Global Foundries 12 nm FDSOI process for the S series SIP in the watch. 

In any case, Apple's mobile processors are the best in the business. No one else is even close. 

The A10X will be a beast of a chip. And the A11 is less than a year away. No one else is competitive with the Apple chips whether a portable Intel i7 or anything from the ARM manufacturers (Samsung and Qualcomm). 

Here's hoping for a 7 nm SoC in the next version of the watch.