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StrangeDays said:

1STnTENDERBITS said:

rogifan_new said:

Another long winded “editorial” that when you boil it down is nothing more than whining about media coverage of Apple.

DED seems to oscillate between two frequencies: persecution and schadenfreude.  Either the world is being unfairly mean to 'the precious' or the enemies of 'the precious' are having troubles so let's celebrate.  

And yet, the eternally butthurt continue to read them...and complain about having to read them. smh.

Nah. DED is one of the few writers who gets Apple, and points out the wildly absurd general reporting. He is in small company, including PED, Horace, and the Macalope. These guys get it. The Verge and ex-Verge hacks of the world do not. But they sure do love clickbait, which is why they also report on Apple as often as possible, but in a negative light either due to ignorance or intention.

Not sure why you chose my comment for your soapbox.  I've never complained about having to read a DED article.  Ever.  I actually kind of like reading them (probably for different reasons than you though).  I don't mind engaging those with opinions different from my own.  Maybe you're confusing disagreeing with his points with complaining about his articles.  Maybe you're just making a general complaint.  Who knows.  That group of writers you like... heh... okay, then.   

rogifan_new said:

Another long winded “editorial” that when you boil it down is nothing more than whining about media coverage of Apple.

DED seems to oscillate between two frequencies: persecution and schadenfreude.  Either the world is being unfairly mean to 'the precious' or the enemies of 'the precious' are having troubles so let's celebrate.  My dude's opinions are about as nuanced as stop sign, and as predictable as day following night.  I think if he made an even half-hearted effort to separate his 'wheat' from his copious amounts of 'chaff' his points would have more clarity.  'Til then we get... well, stuff like this.

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gatorguy said:

red oak said:

wanderso said:

Seems that Apple might have wanted to wait a few more weeks to settle. 

It will take many months to work through the appeals process.  And the outcome is not guaranteed.  Apple needed the chips now 

But as long as the FTC wins at the end, it will not matter.   The contract will get torn up 

I don't see that happening. 

Doesn't the ruling mandate that:

"...Qualcomm must negotiate or renegotiate license terms with customers in good faith under conditions free from the threat of lack of access to or discriminatory provision of modem chip supply or associated technical support or access to software."

Which could give Apple a leg up on redoing the contract.

Negotiate - From a go-forward perspective.  Renegotiate - if terms were negotiated under bad faith and threats.  There's nothing available that says Apple and QC negotiated their agreement under bad faith or threats.  In fact, there's a fair contingent of AI forum members who insist it was Apple negotiating from a position of strength so the conditions for renegotiation weren't really present.  We don't know so we can't assume.  Regardless, that excerpt you quoted does not mandate renegotiation.

red oak said:

This will mean (if it holds up) that the deal just done with Apple is illegal and will be renegotiated 

Back of envelope, could mean a billion year in profit back to Apple.  Plus, will give Apple full runway to develop its own modem chips internally

#Karma  ❤️

That's a lot of supposition that doesn't make sense and I seriously doubt Appe and QC will be renegotiating their deal.  Wouldn't it be more likely that Apple and QC made their agreement with full understanding that QC could lose the FTC court case?  Wouldn't it be more sensible to think they mutually built their agreement around satisfactory terms for both companies?  Even if (seriously doubt it) they renegotiated, it could be a simple formality that reaffirms the terms they already have... the terms that -from the outside looking in- both parties seem happy to have.

Why would you think this ruling give's Apple any more leeway to develop their own modem chips than their current deal does?  Regardless, they'd still have to license QC IP even after they made their own chip.  That doesn't go away.  So not karma.  Qualcomm simply can't double dip any more.  This deal could hypothetically end up costing other OEM's even more money.  Renegotiation doesn't automatically mean paying less.  That would be an assumption without basis.

With the DOJ's influence, Qualcomm seems to have gotten off with a slap on the wrist.  

Reenactment from court: 
{mom vigorously wags finger point at bad kid}
MOM: "You've been really bad!  I need you to play nice and stop bullying your little friends!  They ha-... DON'T YOU ROLL YOUR EYES AT ME MISTER!!"

{kid sighs loudly... rolls eyes and yawns}
{kid farts then giggles}

MOM: "Q, that's disgusting! {sighs... slowly shakes head}  Go on.  Go outside... and BE NICE. "
{smacks Q on the butt and tussles his hair}  

L'il Q: {pounds chest 2x... belches long and loudly... farts again} "Whatever dude"  {grabs magnifying glass to go burn ants}

Seems Qualcomm really, really, really got punished./s