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  • YouTube Music & Google Play Music pass 15M subscribers, lag behind Apple, Spotify [u]

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    davidw said:
    eightzero said:
    lkrupp said:
    eightzero said:
    I just discovered Google Play, and it kinda works for what I wanted it to do: stream my digital music collection. iTunes Match requires a yearly subscription, and it then requires a download to work. While GP is limited to 10k songs for free, that is enough for me. It does have is shortcomings (the app itself kinda sucks), but does work (after a fashion) with CarPlay as well. 

    Free is a good price.
    Well, it’s not really free is it. Your listening habits will be sold to advertisers. Remember, YOU are the product.
    Sigh. Kinda like the free service provided by AI? 

    Not even close. You're not giving Google nearly enough credit for doing what they do best and are best at, collecting data on everyone using Google anything and using that data in order to charge a premium to their customers, for placing targeted ads.
    {snipped for clarity}
    AI free service is not anything like the free service that Google provides. If this free site was run by Google, I wouldn't be surprise if they would be able to collect 5x the ad revenue, that Ai is collecting now. All AI really knows about the people visiting their site, is that they are interested in Apple. Either their products and/or the company itself. 

      
    This is wrong.  AI has a ton of analytics about site visitors.  AI uses Google Analytics. Google Adsense, Facebook Connect, and a host of other trackers.  So that I'm clear, that's not a knock against AI.  They gotta eat and keep the lights on.  So does every other Apple-centric  site.  They all benefit from an association with Google.  Most wouldn't exist without it.
    Again, not knocking AI, just refuting the assertions you made.  
    gatorguywatto_cobra

  • YouTube Music & Google Play Music pass 15M subscribers, lag behind Apple, Spotify [u]

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    davidw said:

    lkrupp said:
    eightzero said:
    I just discovered Google Play, and it kinda works for what I wanted it to do: stream my digital music collection. iTunes Match requires a yearly subscription, and it then requires a download to work. While GP is limited to 10k songs for free, that is enough for me. It does have is shortcomings (the app itself kinda sucks), but does work (after a fashion) with CarPlay as well. 

    Free is a good price.
    Well, it’s not really free is it. Your listening habits will be sold to advertisers. Remember, YOU are the product.
    Hmmm.  I was unaware Google sold anything to advertisers besides ad space based on anonymous aggregated data.  I guess we learn something new every day.  Google sells listening habits.  Good to know.
    The data is only anonymous to the advertisers paying google for targeted ads. The data are not anonymous to Google. Google knows who that data belongs to. But they don't reveal that to their customers. If they did that, then their customers wouldn't need Google to place their ads for them. Why would Google sell the cow, when they have customers lined to buy just the milk? 

    I guarantee you that Google knows the different buying habits of each type of music listeners and it will add to the accuracy of the targeted ads, that they sell to advertisers. Don't under estimated how Google can use what most might consider a useless piece of data, to increase accuracy and thus the price of their targeted ads. Google is really, really good at using every bit of data they can collect on you, in order to make you more of a target, for targeted ads.   

    If Google research reveals that male classical music listeners that are over the age of 40, are more likely to drive expensive foreign cars, then Google will use that data as a selling point to sell targeted ads to the likes of Mercedes, BMW and Porsche.  
    I think you have become a victim of Poe's Law.  Sorry for that.  Maybe I should go back and put some emoji in my comment.  I was sarcastically criticizing lkrupp's inaccurate assessment of what Google does.  I'm fully aware of what Google does and I'd bet good money lkrupp is just as aware.  It won't stop him from pushing that false "Google sells your data" narrative though.  
    Carnage

  • YouTube Music & Google Play Music pass 15M subscribers, lag behind Apple, Spotify [u]

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    lkrupp said:
    eightzero said:
    I just discovered Google Play, and it kinda works for what I wanted it to do: stream my digital music collection. iTunes Match requires a yearly subscription, and it then requires a download to work. While GP is limited to 10k songs for free, that is enough for me. It does have is shortcomings (the app itself kinda sucks), but does work (after a fashion) with CarPlay as well. 

    Free is a good price.
    Well, it’s not really free is it. Your listening habits will be sold to advertisers. Remember, YOU are the product.
    Hmmm.  I was unaware Google sold anything to advertisers besides ad space based on anonymous aggregated data.  I guess we learn something new every day.  Google sells listening habits.  Good to know.
    Carnagegatorguy

  • YouTube Music & Google Play Music pass 15M subscribers, lag behind Apple, Spotify [u]

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    For me this is the best streaming bang for the buck value bar none.  $15 family plan gets ad free YT + GPM for me, the wife, and both daughters.  For our use, it's terrific.  The family plan meant I got to avoid an addition Apple Music sub for my daughter's iPhones.  Couldn't really care less if the service has fewer subs than Spotify or AM.  As long as Google doesn't cancel it (as they are wont to do with their services), I'll be subscribed.  Since they are both being rolled into YT, I'm fairly certain they'll be around for a while.
    chemenginbala1234Carnage

  • SEC presses charges against GT Advanced & CEO for fraud in iPhone sapphire supply

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    DAalseth said:

    As I understand it, the GT Advanced guys came in with a small Sapphire ingot and a good story. Like most con men they made everything they said sound brilliant. They said that their new system would have no trouble scaling up from little ingots to giant ones suitable for iPhone and iPad screens. It sounded wonderful. Apple listed to the presentation and got conned. That's what con men do.
    Apple got hustled by con men who shouldn't have been able to con Apple.  GT Advanced already had a terrible reputation overseas.  IIRC, their furnaces either didn't work properly or weren't delivered.  Multiple industry experts said what GTA was promising wasn't possible.  Apple bet on them anyway.  I think Apple thought they were hedging their bet by placing onerous terms in the infamous "big boy pants" contract.  Con men don't care about contract terms.  From day one, Apple was gonna eat it with this deal but I think they wanted it to work so badly they ignored all the warning signs.
    radarthekat