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fastasleep said:

sirlance99 said:

StrangeDays said:

OutdoorAppDeveloper said:

Truth to power. Apple has in the past built its products in sweatshops in China and only stopped when the word got out about it. They have also used student labor and forced labor. Periodically another sweat shop is discovered somewhere in the production chain and is corrected. Gervais is correct even if you don't want to believe it.

Currently right here in California, Apple is treating its contracted labor horribly compared to its employees.

Misleading. Apple has a zero tolerance policy for things like forced or debt-bonded labor. Right here:

"We have zero tolerance for debt-bonded labor. We prohibit forced labor of any kind, and suppliers must take immediate action or risk removal from our supply chain."

https://www.apple.com/supplier-responsibility/

...with details following. So if their contract suppliers try to do it, it simply isn't accurate to suggest that's a corporate value or policy of Apple to do it. Their suppliers aren't trustworthy and require constant monitoring and auditing. Which Apple does, of course.

But please, continue your steady drumming of anti-Apple narrative.

Man!!! Apple just does no wrong ever to you. You’ll defend them to your last dying breath. It’s a corporation, they do a ton of great things but are no where close to perfect and do bad things as well. 

The thing is, Apple doesn't own or run these factories – they are operated by other companies. Apple does what they can to hold those partner companies accountable for their practices through monitoring and audits and forcing those partners to improve standards, as well as provide education and so forth to workers. To say Apple did those "bad things" is disingenuous if you're talking about a partner company in their supply chain. The fact that Apple seeks to improve these situations to the extent that they do is a positive thing. I don't hear peep about any of this stuff from the other companies that manufacture their goods using the exact same partners. 

Inferring Foxconn factories as belonging to Apple, for example, is flat out wrong. Here's a list of their major customers: Acer Inc., Amazon.com, Apple Inc., BlackBerry Ltd., Cisco, Dell, Google, Hewlett-Packard, HMD Global, Huawei, InFocus, Intel, Microsoft Corp., Motorola Mobility, Nintendo, Sony, Toshiba, Vizio, Xiaomi. How many of those companies have forced Foxconn to improve working conditions, workers' rights & education, and produce supply chain responsibility reports?

Fatman said:

Does anyone watch these award shows anyway? It’s usually a bunch of fake & shallow hypocritical actors kissing each other’s behinds. To have the host insult them is ironic. And to have him make comments about Apple that aren’t accurate is harmful and slanderous. Hey, you could argue EVERY product made in China is made in a sweatshop - none of those workers are paid fair wages, in which case all companies that manufacture in China are guilty. At least Apple attempts to bring better working conditions and more environmentally friendly processes - I would say they are way ahead of Microsoft, Dell, and all the other tech/consumer products companies in their efforts.

lkrupp said:

WarrenBuffduckh said:

iOS_Guy80 said:

One small item left out of this article, Apple stock is YTD over 80% and Yearly over 90%.

That may be fine but the Far East has become a lost  continent.  Different interests, different habits,  different ecosystems, than the US or Europe.

Apart from very small minority, these people have freed themselves from the Cooked Wall: the Apple ecosystem that forced them into less evolved hardware for inordinate, premium prices.

Cook has isolated himself, not able to connect to this culture, its communication patterns, use cases, and its competitive ecosystems that Apple doesn’t control and neither understands

We have heard this diarrhea of the mouth like yours for over 40 years now. Get over it. You’re wrong and always have been.

hexclock said:

beowulfschmidt said:

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Some woman driving around with $115,000 in iPhones in their car.

And they leave the car unattended and the phones in plain sight inside the car?

Yep, nothing suspicious there at all.

I feel real sorry for the woman (NOT....).

Way to blame the victim here.  Good going.

From the linked article:
"Cooper did not know why the shopper had purchased so many phones, but said it’s not uncommon for customers to make such large purchases from the Apple Store, especially because Apple released the new iPhone 11 a few months ago. He said he didn’t know how many iPhones the customer bought, but that the purchase totaled around $115,000. According to Apple’s website, iPhone 11 prices start at $699."

I can't see any reason why one person would buy over 100 phones at once. If purchased for a business, wouldn't you just order them from Apple directly? Seems odd to me.