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muthuk_vanalingam said:

Rayz2016 said:

muthuk_vanalingam said:

Rayz2016 said:

racerhomie3 said:

Meanwhile Android phones with old batteries literally shutdown while making calls.

Yes, but the interesting thing here is that when someone complains about this on an Android forum, the first reply was to get the battery checked/replaced. 

Which kinda explodes the notion that Android users are dumber. I mean, I bet you won’t find many Android users who will deliberately set an option that will cause their phone to crash. 

Just sayin’

Yes, but the interesting thing here is that when someone complains about this on an Android forum, the first reply was to get the battery checked/replaced.

This is an important part of your reply, which is deliberately ignored by people who blindly support Apple in this episode. This clearly shows - People would have replaced their battery if Apple had NOT throttled the phones because people DO understand battery issues. But by slowing down the phones, Apple deliberately mislead them into a different problem (phone is too old to run the latest OS) and possible solution (buy a new phone).

Unfortunately, the fact that iOS has had a battery health warning built into the settings for quite some time blows that little conspiracy theory right out of the water. 

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Unfortunately, the fact that iOS has had a battery health warning built into the settings for quite some time blows that little conspiracy theory right out of the water. 

Few months back when I posted something similar on this topic, @Strangedays posted something similar to what you have posted now. I asked him few questions back then (needless to say, no response). I am going to ask the same questions to you now.

1. Are those battery health warnings ACTUALLY work reliably enough ALL the time, so that they can be relied upon by all the users?

2. If yes, why is Apple making enhancements NOW as detailed out in their apology after the throttling issue came to light?

3. If answer is NO to my question in point 1, you a making a stance which you cannot rely upon yourselves. Which one is that?

Your first question actually sounds to me like a clever shifting of the goal post. You first stated that Apple's action was tantamount to deceiving users into buying a new phone and when someone points out that Apple actually implemented a setting to show battery health, you change tack and ask if that setting worked reliably enough all the time.

The enhancements that Apple is making now are probably a simple evolution/refinement of the original bunch of settings. No doubt, the huge controversy around this issue forced Apple into thinking more deeply about how this could be handled better for the benefit of its customers.

IMHO, if the battery health warnings were introduced at the same time as the update that throttled performance on older batteries, it would be quite clear that Apple wasn't attempting any shenanigans. 

spice-boy said:

Glad to hear you are an optimist but Apple has let it's customers down the past couple of years regarding software too many times. I love the platform and bought only Apple products since 1994 but these days the software is embarrassing. Too many people here make excuses for Apple, the richest company in the world with all the resources needed to release near perfect software as they did before. 

Surely, you read this recent Twitter thread by Steven Sinofsky about Apple's software development quality problems? According to him, the reality of developing software used by over a billion people is a lot more nuanced: 

gmgravytrain said:

There's no way Apple can ever sell many iPhones in India. Apple doesn't sell $100 smartphones. A used iPhone 4s could be too expensive for most Indian consumers. That's just the way it is.

Believe it or not, Apple has great brand cachet with the middle class and upper middle class in India, not to mention the rich and the super rich. Here's an anecdotal encounter I had recently at a restaurant. An older person (easily 60+) sitting at the next table and dressed in the traditional white wraparound (called dhoti) and a white shirt was animatedly explaining something about a mobile phone to his colleague; it took me a while to realize that he had an iPhoneX in hand (with a clear case!). I was flabbergasted because it would have cost him nearly 100,000 INR for the phone and the case. He looked like a businessman, so money was obviously not an issue, but you must have seen the enthusiasm and conviction with which he spoke about the iPhoneX in glowing terms!

The stores of all the premium Apple resellers in my city are always full of people checking out the Apple stuff and buying things. When I got a 2017 MacBook Air recently, I saw someone walk in and, in literally minutes, walk out with the latest model of the Apple Watch.

I hope Apple gets its marketing strategy right to reach out to more customers. One thing that puzzles me is why Apple doesn't roll out its programme to buy the iPhone in monthly installments - this is how a vast majority of consumer white goods are purchased in India and I bet people would buy Apple products in the millions if such a programme were available directly from Apple.

zoetmb said:   

And let's get real.  The iPhone X doesn't have Touch ID not because Apple is moving on to new and better technology, but because they couldn't make it work on the full-size screen.   Anything else out of Ive's mouth is just a b.s. rationalization.   

Really? Didn't you read Mashable's recent interview with senior Apple execs where they explicitly deny this accusation? Or, you have read it but still want to peddle your own biased narrative?
http://mashable.com/2017/10/31/how-apple-built-the-iphone-x/#N1efpaPUvSqH

randominternetperson said:

Trolls are active today.  High number of low-post users trotting out tired anti-Apple talking points in this thread.  I wonder what sparked it.

I think AI's silly use of 'defends' in the title was the cue that triggered these trolls to come out into the open.