DuhSesame

williamlondon said:

DuhSesame said:

Well there he is.

Blocked the Android shill years ago.

JustSomeGuy1 said:

DuhSesame said:

JustSomeGuy1 said:

The server market is really distinct from the workstation market. And why do you think TR isn't selling well?

But again, I say it's not relevant, because we're not talking about some random risk-averse IT manager, or the tech team at Amazon's EC division. We're talking about Apple, which is supposed to have some vision, and to "skate where the puck is going to be, not where it is". The puck was obviously headed towards AMD in 2019.

“Vision”, okay…I’m sure they have planned to switch way back then, well scheduled during or even before the current design.  Whatever this product is marketing at, it should primarily cover this transition period first, not fighting spec wars.  28-core is enough for couple of years, may not be the best, but does the job, and way more reliable.

That’s the other issue, as you want a serious production system to work 100% all the time, where IIRC Zen 2 does tend to glitch if someone maxed out their PCIe lanes.  This is why there’s now a TR Pro to cover this segment.

You keep claiming that Zen 2 had reliability problems. Source?

But not relevant anyway, as you seem to be saying this about the desktop chip. That's not what we're talking about! The chip in the Mac Pro is a Xeon, providing >40 PCIe lanes and 6 channels of DRAM. If they'd used a Zen 2 chip, it would have been the EPYC, in order to provide as many PCIe lanes (or more, EPYC has 128 PCIe4 lanes), and 8 channels of DRAM. The desktop chip would have been a nonstarter at two DRAM channels, nevermind the smaller PCIe config.