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KITA said:AppleInsider said:
For these tests, we were rocking a six-core Intel CPU inside our 15-inch MacBook Pro. It a Core i7 processor with a base speed of 2.2GHz with boost speeds up to powerful 4.1GHz.
Geekbench 4 returned 4,884 for single core and 22,179 for the multi-core. Even though we have the base model 15-inch, it still outpaces the top of the line 2017 model which earned 4,360 and 11,979 for single and multi-core scores respectively.
That also is way above the scores we clocked earlier on the base 13-inch pro which earned 4,602 and 16,699 for the single and multi-core tests.
cgWerks said:DuhSesame said:cgWerks said:This doesn't surprise me too much. Doesn't the iMac Pro even do this?
It does surprise me a bit, though, that it would be slower than the 2017. Aren't both CPUs similar in terms of thermals? The same chassis should have similar thermal handling capabilities... though MBPs have never handled heat all that well in my experience. And, at least in the past, the problems went beyond the CPU throttling down, but resulted in damage to other components.
But it’s not only the MacBook Pro that throttles, most of the laptops do back in the 4th generation.
See that tricks me in the early days as well, which I think it wouldn't be so bad to keep something under 45W to cool.
But what TDP really means, I think, is "the smallest value of a cooler you can put on top of our processors". something can cool down 45W at maximum will work at least, but will not sustain it's maximum turbo boost frequency at all. That's the basic practice among the industries today, where you'll always expect the fastest core i7 runs more than 60-70W when tested.
And each and every processors comes with a different thermal output as well. An i7-8750H can be either much cooler, or just as hot as an Core i9, mostly because TDP also rated in "the maximum value from a processor family".
ahobbit said:The real question is, how could this have gotten past Apple QC?if simple tests as the ones done by Lee, AI and others reveal a potential throttling issue where the i9 is unable to maintain the advertised base frequency, even ending up slower in some cases than last year's i7 model, how could Apple not have known about this?
Does it mean, Apple cares more about specs on paper than real world performance for pro users?
Didn't Apple bring in-house many pro users to have them help design the next Mac Pro?
Why were these people not involved in the MacBook Pro i9 testing? Wouldn't that seem obvious?
A wasted opportunity?
A waste of in-house resources?
Apple more and more seems poorly managed...
For all the money and resources they have, they should produce better results - if it is true that they still care about pro users, as they claim.Either they don't actually care as much as they claim - or cannot do any better than that.Both are very troubling if you are a pro user.
The only thing that can provide maximum turbo boost for an i9 can only be those huge gaming laptops.
tommy65 said:Dutch magazine showed that The TDP is not 45W but 120W under load. Now all make sence. So no thermal but TDP problem instead.
Not even a Type-C can give enough power to drive that thing.
Rayz2016 said:DuhSesame said:Rayz2016 said:seankill said:Where’s the “no one needs 32GB of RAM” crowd?
Clearly Apple thinks the customers need it...........
The market demanded it, Apple listened.
Nevermind, they are already downplaying the fact they were wrong.
Unfortunately for you, gloating only works when you don't make stuff up to do it.
No one said that "no one needs 32GB of RAM"
What lot's of people said was "How do you know if if it doesn't work for you if you haven't tried it?"
And I think the case still stands that most people like to think they need 32GB, but they actually don't.
Until 2 weeks from now when everyone starts whining on how they can't live without 64GB of RAM.lamboaudi4 said:commentzilla said:chabig said:ericthehalfbee said:Damn you Apple. Why did you put in 32GB? What will all the pretend haters who claim they run multiple VMs whine about now?
256GB is the actual Pro standard. And don't tell me you're a professional unless you have any processors less than 18 cores and have at least 7 VM instances running 24/7.