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  • Apple Music estimated at 21M North American listeners, converting at 2.5 times rate of Spo...

    Wall Street is only going to look at AppleMusic's subscriber base from a global perspective which will make it fall well short of Spotify which will definitely not help AppleMusic's value to help boost Apple's overall value. AppleMusic will remain tied to how many iPhones Apple can sell globally which is a relatively limited amount when compared to Android devices. Spotify runs on almost every device out there. AppleMusic not so much. Apple's only alternative is to keep holding on to older iOS users and gain at least a tiny amount of new iOS users every year. AppleMusic will never be valued by Wall Street even close to Spotify. Spotify has a share price of $180 with an EPS of -10.2x. That's just friggin crazy. I'll bet AppleMusic isn't even valued a tenth of that and there's no way AppleMusic would have a negative EPS as there are only paid subscribers. Spotify is automatically being given the benefit of the doubt by investors while AppleMusic is basically being overlooked in terms of value.
    I think you might be confused.  Apple Music isn't a separate company and isn't valued as such by Wall Street investors.  It's value also goes well beyond the direct subscribers as it enhances the entire ecosystem and it allows those 50-60 million and rising subscribers to be monetized any number of ways, such as with the upcoming video streaming service.  Most importantly,  Spotify is in very precarious financial position as it has never made money and is hemorrhaging money at an alarming rate.  It is a one trick pony based on a few wealthy venture capitalists betting on being bought out.  It can't raise prices as music streaming has become close to a "commoditized" business where consumers largely choose on price; that's why it has had to match every price discount Apple has offered.  Thus, Spotify can't raise prices as its costs rise because Apple, Amazon and Google have enormous business with large revenue streams other than their music streaming.  I bet your farm on Spotify as their only hope is someone buys them.
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  • Samsung goes after Apple and iPhone X again with two more 'Ingenious' ads

    sflocal said:
    I wish Apple would start doing some ads to bash Samsung, similar to the "I'm a Mac, You're a PC" campaign from ages ago.  It's time to smack Samsung with some humble pie.
    Why?  They are crushing, virtually stomping on them, in sales.  The main thing these ads accomplish is that they concede that the iPhone is the thing that Samsung wants to be #1.  In contrast to Apple's award winning ads, these don't leave you with impression that the Samsung is a great phone.
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  • Apple unlikely to include Lightning-to-headphone jack converter with 2018 iPhones, analyst...

    base jase said:
    Not gonna lie, I really miss having a headphone jack. None of my kids want the new iphones without the headphone jack. They are talking about android phones, although they seem to be doing the same thing. Apple are not seeing the consequences of this yet. Parents give kids their phones a lot. Soon the kids won't want them, without the headphone jack.
    "Soon the kids won't want them."  LOL.  Every survey shows iPhone overwhelming and increasing popularity among young people. It may have thrown you for a bit of a loop because of your age, but surveys show the vast majority of people who used wired headphones just use the included earbuds, so kids/people don't even notice because their new headphones just plug in the lightning spot.  Of course, wireless now outsells wired headphones so those people could care less about the legacy headphone jack.  The tiny few who have old wired headphones simply take the two seconds to pop the adapter on the end of their old set and never think about it again. 
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  • Apple unlikely to include Lightning-to-headphone jack converter with 2018 iPhones, analyst...

    MplsP said:
    So can someone who is paying $800 for a smart phone afford a $10 adapter? Absolutely, but I agree with others and find it a bit galling that after selling a phone for $800 to $1000 with higher profit margins than any other company in the industry, Apple nickels and dimes their customers for a dongle to maintain basic functionality. It's not unlike paying $600 for a hotel room and then getting charged for the newspaper or wifi. 

    As much as people protest, the 3.5mm jack is still an industry standard. Even Apple tacitly admits this by keeping the jack on iPads and MacBooks. I forgot my headphones when flew a few months ago. Delta didn't have any lightning headphones but thankfully I could use the airline headphones in my 6s. On top of that, the airline infotainment system had a 3.5mm jack; there was no bluetooth and there is no lightning to 3.5mm adapter that I'm aware of. 

    If people don't need the adapter, that's fine, but there are plenty that do. I think a better approach would be to offer an adapter for free when you buy your phone. If you need it you can get one. If you don't need it then you don't have another piece of trash laying around.
    Sorry, not an industry standard, multiple companies are dropping it from their smart phones.
    Soliwatto_cobra
  • Apple unlikely to include Lightning-to-headphone jack converter with 2018 iPhones, analyst...

    So, a Trillion dollar company won't include the dongle with their newest, most expensive 2018 phones.   I wonder if we will be able to buy it at the Apple store for $39.99?    I see how they have become a trillion dollar company.    Ugh.....it may be time to reevaluate my loyalty to Apple....  
    Easy there cowboy.    Relax, they've been selling them all along at cost for less than $9, so your $39.99 hyperbole can cool down. Besides,


    1) most people now have one or more,so they are just starting to accumulate in drawers, not good for the environment
    2)  and they are giving you lightning equipped headphones, which is all most people use with their iPhones, so no need there
    3) Wireless now far surpasses wired sales so those who do buy something to use other than the included earbuds don't need an adapter either.

    See how easy that was.
    Soliwatto_cobra