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  • Apple says potential EU Apple Pay rules threaten security, stifle innovation

    avon b7 said:
    crowley said:
    NFC is crusty old tech.
    Ars Technica had an article in 2013 complaining about years of NFC hype while nothing happened. 
    Banks just recently caught up with 2010 and started using NFC. Banks love crusty old tech.
    Apple never liked it, but if they want to play in mobile payments, which they do, they need to go with old tech the banks can handle.
    If Apple is forced to keep supporting NFC at the low levels banks want access to, they will be stuck with it longer and their options for moving forward will be restricted.
    That is what they mean by stifling innovation.

    What superior tech is there that fulfils the functions of NFC?
    Any other communication medium. Near Field Communication requires close proximity. There are not many applications where this is a pro and not a con.
    NFC only feels natural for payments because we are used going to a special machine or person to pay. It's like they used to stick a fake horse head onto the first automobiles, or how the first quartz wall clocks sometimes had pendulums. This felt natural and right to many people then. Standing in line to do a thing to pay is like that.
    Apple does not want to be held back by such luddites, and they would be if they were forced to support implementation details like NFC just because banks are slow with tech.

    We have been paying for stuff over the internet for years, financial transactions don't really require physical proximity. 

    Take a look at the ISO7816 standard. This monstrous abomination from the primeval ooze is what Apple would have to support if the banks had their way.
    Are you sure? 


    Yup. I build software for that stuff, for access control systems. Built an Android app with NFC (just a proof of concept, a real Android programmer made the app clients use). It’s a mess. And yes, smart people can make it mostly work. It’s what engineers do.
    But NFC is not the future. It was a solution looking for a problem for a long time. It was going nowhere until the banks were ready for it, and then Apple had to play along.

    There is nothing in that video that UWB cannot do better.
    jdb8167watto_cobra
  • Apple says potential EU Apple Pay rules threaten security, stifle innovation

    crowley said:
    NFC is crusty old tech.
    Ars Technica had an article in 2013 complaining about years of NFC hype while nothing happened. 
    Banks just recently caught up with 2010 and started using NFC. Banks love crusty old tech.
    Apple never liked it, but if they want to play in mobile payments, which they do, they need to go with old tech the banks can handle.
    If Apple is forced to keep supporting NFC at the low levels banks want access to, they will be stuck with it longer and their options for moving forward will be restricted.
    That is what they mean by stifling innovation.

    What superior tech is there that fulfils the functions of NFC?
    Any other communication medium. Near Field Communication requires close proximity. There are not many applications where this is a pro and not a con.
    NFC only feels natural for payments because we are used going to a special machine or person to pay. It's like they used to stick a fake horse head onto the first automobiles, or how the first quartz wall clocks sometimes had pendulums. This felt natural and right to many people then. Standing in line to do a thing to pay is like that.
    Apple does not want to be held back by such luddites, and they would be if they were forced to support implementation details like NFC just because banks are slow with tech.

    We have been paying for stuff over the internet for years, financial transactions don't really require physical proximity. 

    Take a look at the ISO7816 standard. This monstrous abomination from the primeval ooze is what Apple would have to support if the banks had their way.
    jdb8167watto_cobra
  • Apple says potential EU Apple Pay rules threaten security, stifle innovation

    NFC is crusty old tech.
    Ars Technica had an article in 2013 complaining about years of NFC hype while nothing happened. 
    Banks just recently caught up with 2010 and started using NFC. Banks love crusty old tech.
    Apple never liked it, but if they want to play in mobile payments, which they do, they need to go with old tech the banks can handle.
    If Apple is forced to keep supporting NFC at the low levels banks want access to, they will be stuck with it longer and their options for moving forward will be restricted.
    That is what they mean by stifling innovation.

    williamlondonjdb8167watto_cobra
  • Apple threatens to close Epic Games developer account on Aug. 28

    Peza said:
    KITA said:
    Interesting. This may impact iOS/macOS gaming even further, potentially making third party developers choose to drop support of iOS/macOS or find a new game engine.

    It told Epic that by August 28, Apple will cut off Epic’s access to all development tools necessary to create software for Apple’s platforms—including for the Unreal Engine Epic offers to third-party developers, which Apple has never claimed violated any Apple policy. Not content simply to remove Fortnite from the App Store, Apple is attacking Epic’s entire business in unrelated areas. 

    If the Unreal Engine can no longer support Apple platforms, the software developers that use it will be forced to use alternatives.

    Apple would lose out on Unreal Engine 5 as well it sounds like.




    Yes, yes they will, but if Apple wants to shoot it’s own foot off to carry on with its hypocritical store rules that’s up to them, I’m sure the EU investigation will tell them what to do if they want to continue trading in Europe, no doubt the Apple fans will just claim Apple doesn’t need Europe, yeah it doesn’t need billions in profit.
    The EU politicians, like all politicians everywhere else, will do nothing at all or something dumb that doesn't work, or something that works for a problem that no longer exists when they finally get round to doing something. Don't get your hopes up.
    FileMakerFellerRayz2016watto_cobraDetnator
  • Apple threatens to close Epic Games developer account on Aug. 28

    NinjaMan said:
    ...they could easily come to the table and work with developers on adapting their policies...
    You know this how?
    Epic wants to run their own store.
    Who else should get this if Epic does? "Everyone" would make the most sense.

    Apple will be left with the free and low revenue apps.
    Not a sustainable business.
    watto_cobraDetnator