bshank

crowley said:

mjtomlin said:

crowley said:

Beats said:

They want full access to Apples developments? WTF?!

No one is entitled to anyone's technology.

CheeseFreeze said:

The App Store is hugely anti-competitive. 

A 30% cut is ridiculous in 2020, and their ability to push their own software and reject others is also a clear example of that behavior, including the fact you can’t change your default email client, music software, navigation software, etc. Being a ‘third party’ always is second to ‘first party’ Apple. 

What does 2020 have to do with anything? Are you one of those who say "it's [current year], people can do what they want!!" and update the year every year with the same message?

georgie01 said:

It really gets tiring to see iOS developers complain about Apple, seeming to show no awareness that if it weren’t for Apple’s App Store many of them wouldn’t even have jobs in the first place (no resources to start a company and to sell their work). We so quickly become entitled, like we deserve the good things we have, even when they come from someone else.

THIS.

And if it weren't for third party developers creating apps, the iPhone quite possibly wouldn't have nearly been as successful.  It flows both ways.  If Apple want the benefits of a rich app ecosystem then they should play fair with developers.  If Apple really are ripping off Tile's idea and using their platform owner position as leverage over a developer in their ecosystem, then where's your criticism of their entitlement? 

Apple didn't build their technology in a sealed off  bunker, they stood on the shoulders of other giants.  That's fine, but now they're a giant, and it seem liike all too often they're flicking off and stomping on the newcomers who are trying to stand on their shoulders just a little bit.

No. That argument only holds water if the iPhone became popular while Apple did not charge the 30% fee for apps. The fact is, that 30% has always been in place and both the iPhone and App Store became hugely successful despite that. Apple has and does play fair with developers, but they cannot play fair with EVERYONE. There will be some that lose out due to the natural evolution of the platform, which has to compete with other platforms.

Furthermore, it is Apple's hardware, and iOS only runs on Apple's hardware and always has. Developers know this. And they know Apple will always have some kind of advantage because they create the whole widget.

I don't really know what the 30% cut is supposed to do with this, the OP that brought that up appears to just be ranting, and I don't agree with his point.

The problem here is that Apple are providing both a product and a platform.  The two not particularly compatible and create a conflict of interest.  I think the greater value of iOS is as a platform, I use non-Apple apps far more than I use Apple apps, so I wish Apple would stop pulling this shit.

Apple spent billions of dollars building the infrastructure that makes the App Store work, provide developers the tools they need to make their apps work well on the devices, and continues to hire employees who constantly monitor the App Store for apps that violate guidelines and protects the privacy of Apple customers. The App Store is one of many different stores that exist in the world. If you don’t like Apple’s App Store then there are third party ways to make other apps work on iPhone or you can go to Android. I will never understand the lame arguments of people who want everything for free despite the fact that a competent steward like Apple makes the convenience we all enjoy possible. If this COVID-19 hasn’t made clear that there are companies and bureaucracies that are managed well and have responsibly saved resources and capital to endure a crisis and some that are not and will fail because of mismanagement then I am at a loss. Just because Apple comes up with a good idea does not mean it should be forced to become a public service or utility. If you feel so strongly you, Elizabeth Warren, and Margarethe Vestager can take over the App Store and do all the work that Apple does for free for all of us and we’ll see how good a job you can do (and how long you will last). 

MplsP said:

bshank said:

Won’t happen once Europe forces Apple to have a removable battery on iPhone. Then I imagine European customers won’t have as good an outcome in similar circumstances and flood Apple Champs-Elysées with pitchforks, perplexed and angry that their iPhones aren’t as water resistant. 

*rolleyes* 
yet another poster who is far better at jumping to conclusions and histrionics than reading comprehension. 

Just foreshadowing combining the reading and comprehension of two stories. No need for the cheap attempt at an insult buddy. 

Won’t happen once Europe forces Apple to have a removable battery on iPhone. Then I imagine European customers won’t have as good an outcome in similar circumstances and flood Apple Champs-Elysées with pitchforks, perplexed and angry that their iPhones aren’t as water resistant. 

foregoneconclusion said:

Apple no more has a monopoly on its own software than Ford has a monopoly on the software running in its cars.

It doesn't matter that they're not a monopoly. Your business can be subject to regulation regardless

 

On a false premise? SMH

Wgkrueger said:

maestro64 said:

radarthekat said:

86 million shares retired through open market repurchases at $209.30 per share.  That’s a pretty good use of cash if you ask this long-term shareholder.

Yep, i plan to be last man standing with my shares, Those who hold will be rewarded.

Just don’t be greedy. Many times I waited for the final outcome only to end up with a loss. 

Well, if you had been patient and held Apple into the last few days you would surely have had a better final outcome