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SpamSandwich said:

FYI, outsourcing work to Vietnam from China has been going on for a long time because of the savings in labor costs. More than a decade, from my experience.

Eric_WVGG said:

and the Watch has really only just gotten started. Loads of untapped potential.

 I've spoken to more than one person who has expressed the desire to get an Apple Watch as a full-on phone replacement. One was an Android user who would was ready to pull the trigger before I explained that it was still technically an iPhone accessory.

 Anyone want to place bets against the next WatchOS going fully untethered?

StrangeDays said:

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acheron2018 said:

This is probably the most interesting article AI has ever published.  Fascinating. 

And to state the obvious SOMEONE has to pay for all those man-years of research.  The $5K price is not all profit. 

It is also the culmination of decades of consistent R&D.

So the cost is spread over multiple years & dozens of projects, not just one machine.

I would postulate that the G4/G5 era led to many thermal "finds" by Apple's R&D teams - we saw the quad nostrils, bigger, better fans, designed airflow, repositioning of other internal components, etc.

...he who stacks pork was a huge influence in my getting another 66 mhz out of my PowerMacs... long live xlr8yourmac.com !

Apple may be taking credit for the fans but most likely the fan supplier had a big role in its design.   It is sort of like the mix between Apples IP and TSMC IP that gives us the high performance A series.    That isn’t to dismiss Apples engineering just that projects like these are collaborations between the suppliers and Apple.  

You're dismissing the research and development process too much. Apple isn't buying off-the-shelf components to design and assemble their machines. They design every aspect, and *then* go find suppliers that can meet those requirements. None of the fans in Apple machines are off-the-shelf, for example. They are all designed by Apple for Apple. Open up a typical PC, though, and you'll see the opposite.

Exactly. This stuff is bespoke. 

FileMakerFeller said:

cgWerks said:

tht said:

It’s the Internet where 90% of the comments are from trolls, wishful thinkers and increasingly bots (if you were on Twitter or Facebook). So, always keep that in mind.

I suppose, but I think also just a ton of ignorant people. I saw a Twitter thread a bit ago where comments were saying you could build 10 PC with better performance for the price and stuff like that. I don't think most people have any clue what it actually is.

That argument is probably worth a closer look. If you can get 10 PCs working in parallel, do you get the same, better, or worse performance than a single Mac Pro? Google famously decided that a huge number of relatively basic machines, hooked up properly, would give better results in aggregate than a smaller number of more powerful machines - and that approach seems to have been the better one, but it's that "hooked up properly" step that took a huge amount of effort.

acheron2018 said:

This is probably the most interesting article AI has ever published.  Fascinating. 

And to state the obvious SOMEONE has to pay for all those man-years of research.  The $5K price is not all profit. 

sjworld said:

It’s air cooled. This machine is very much likely to start thermal throttling once it reaches 80C during heavy workloads.