svanstrom

mac_dog said:

svanstrom said:

JFC_PA said:

“ ecause of the nature of the vulnerability and related exploits, physical access is required for attacks to be carried out.

As a result, average users can avoid the exploits by maintaining physical security, and not plugging in USB-C devices with unverified provenance.”

So once the bad people HAVE the device they can mess with it.   Yawn. 

Which means that the devices that used to be undesirable by thieves and robbers now are perfectly legit reasons for pulling weapons on, physically attacking, and in at least some cases also worth killing, people out and about. There's no yawning about that.

Hate to break it to you, but your information isn’t  important enough for anyone to do the above mentioned. Relax. 

To some my information absolutely would be what we at least could call worth slightly more than worthless, and there are some git repos that really shouldn't get out (could cost me a bloody fortune); also, under just the right/wrong circumstances they could definitely mess with information/accounts that would be extremely valuable to me (and/or my clients). Although, the race would be on as I within minutes could mitigate that from another device.

BUT… That's not what I'm worried about!

I actually fairly regularly have to walk through areas where robberies do happen; and I really don't want some moron with a knife to read about an Apple vulnerability and think that I might be his payday.

That's the main thing. As much as I really don't want to lose equipment, and the impact it would have one my work, my main worry is having the odds ever so slightly less in my favour.

rangerd said:

svanstrom said:

JFC_PA said:

“ ecause of the nature of the vulnerability and related exploits, physical access is required for attacks to be carried out.

As a result, average users can avoid the exploits by maintaining physical security, and not plugging in USB-C devices with unverified provenance.”

So once the bad people HAVE the device they can mess with it.   Yawn. 

Which means that the devices that used to be undesirable by thieves and robbers now are perfectly legit reasons for pulling weapons on, physically attacking, and in at least some cases also worth killing, people out and about. There's no yawning about that.

Somehow I don't think thieves, muggers, and bloody murderers are real savvy on hacking in-chip hardware vulnerabilities. If this were the case, 2020 would be better known for "The Slaughter of the Smartphone Users" than for COVID, since all phones have various security flaws of one kind or another, especially if you have them in-hand. I think your statement is downright preposterous, to be frank. Sounds like you are having a terrible, anxious day, and maybe went a little far on this one. I get it, times are pretty tough right now. Deep breaths, and hang in there. Things will get better. No snark, I mean it.

The guy selling drugs probably don't know how to make them, and just the same the guy robbing don't know how to run a fencing operation; so it simply becomes about the value of a stolen product… If it has a value to someone else (because they can get it to someone savvy on hacking in-chip hardware vulnerabilities), or if it's worthless.

JFC_PA said:

“ ecause of the nature of the vulnerability and related exploits, physical access is required for attacks to be carried out.

As a result, average users can avoid the exploits by maintaining physical security, and not plugging in USB-C devices with unverified provenance.”

So once the bad people HAVE the device they can mess with it.   Yawn. 

Which means that the devices that used to be undesirable by thieves and robbers now are perfectly legit reasons for pulling weapons on, physically attacking, and in at least some cases also worth killing, people out and about. There's no yawning about that.

Eric_WVGG said:

flydog said:

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I disagree that OWC is on the "cutting edge." …

huh. I've had nothing but great experiences with them going all the way back the G4 Powerbook days. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

I don't think the "only 60 watt" thing is a big deal, that covers most models, the 16" is practically an edge case. I suppose it'd be nice to see a regular and "pro" model but I'm still impressed that they have one out the door already.

Note that we're five years into USB-C now and there still isn't a single "real" USB-C Hub that expands the number of C ports, so this is a leap over what was already on the market.

It's a Thunderbolt 4 hub, so one would expect a bit of being future-proof with a product like that; and not only does that clash a bit with it being only 60W, but MBP16 people are probably the ones more likely to need/want (and be willing to pay) for a product like this.

All that, and… ONLY 60W?? Why??