svanstrom

Mac512user said:

Great idea these tracking mechanisms, but I can’t help but get all James Bond-ish about it... if this tag produces a signal, then it can be tracked by anybody. I don’t see how this stops a thief... eventually hackers will make a device that can search for signals on the same frequency and then know right where the tracking tag is and pull it, and throw it in the river.

 I’m not a pessimist, just being realistic here... not sure how these items protect anyone from having anything of value from being stolen. 

For now, i know how much i hate wearing my phone when i go out for a run, so i can see myself wearing one of these tags so if i don’t make it home, someone could actually come looking for me and find me.

Realistic sort of implies keeping things real; which you are far from doing as you don't understand the technology at all.

It's not a cellular device with a GPS, so they don't work as you think in the case were you would wear one; and you have some sort of fear of "hackers" listening to signals, where the important thing is rather lack of signal (or signal in combination with movement unrelated to the owner's movement), which would alert the owner of an initiated theft (so you can run to your things, yell thief, or follow the thief while on the phone with the police).

dewme said:

I'm very curious to see where Apple sees this product fitting into its customer's lives.

For me it's simple… It fits into all the things I carry with me, and that has been stolen if it moves away from me; and it fits into everything that has been forgotten if I move away from it (outside of safe zones, like home, office, etc).

Then it becomes a question of value, compared with the price of the tag, as well as the potential hassle of keeping it charged.

So this would definitely go into my regularly used bags, some computer cases/protection, maybe a jacket; and definitely on my keychain. In total maybe just five tags, at most.

cpsro said:

IMO it's a bit much to write "our users" [emphasis added]. Like we're cattle (or chattel?).

Welcome to recently having learned the English language; what you're experiencing right there is just normal phrasing, and shouldn't in and off itself make you feel reduced to someone not able to think for themselves.

qwerty52 said:

svanstrom said:

qwerty52 said:

I still don’t see the advantage of this device. It is nor crab nor fish. It is at least twice as thick as a normal phone, and still with smaller display then an iPad. I can’t put this silly brick in my pocket and for the same money I can bye an iPhone and an iPad

Consider it a stepping stone. Right now it's not the magic solution to the problem with people wanting displays that are bigger than the device they bring with them; so it's just sort of a solution, for those willing to accept the compromises needed to get the technology as it is today.

Then again, maybe we shouldn't underestimate what "the people" want; perhaps there's a big market for these (once the prices drops to the normal for a more high end phone). Some people want what might seem weird to others; for example, I would easily replace my iPhone with an 8" iPad mini if it got the iPad Pro features/look; so there's at least a market of one for crazy big phones that very much don't fit in a pocket (I consider the Apple Watch to be my primary "phone", though).

The users don’t need a steppingstone, and less more a half steppingstone like this Samsung’s “innovation”.
If this device it’s not the magic solution and not mature enough, then it should stay still in the labs of Samsung and not in the stores.
But obviously Samsung hasn’t problem with that and proudly ask so much money for a half-baked device.

Just like no one should have bothered with trains until they were fast enough and tracks were everywhere, and no one should have bothered making any cars until Tesla came around and perfected them; and no one should have made early day computers because they weren’t perfected yet, and no b/w video games, and no first generation Apple Watch because until they could make the one true and only generation that has all the features that ever could be put in it?

qwerty52 said:

I still don’t see the advantage of this device. It is nor crab nor fish. It is at least twice as thick as a normal phone, and still with smaller display then an iPad. I can’t put this silly brick in my pocket and for the same money I can bye an iPhone and an iPad

Consider it a stepping stone. Right now it's not the magic solution to the problem with people wanting displays that are bigger than the device they bring with them; so it's just sort of a solution, for those willing to accept the compromises needed to get the technology as it is today.

Then again, maybe we shouldn't underestimate what "the people" want; perhaps there's a big market for these (once the prices drops to the normal for a more high end phone). Some people want what might seem weird to others; for example, I would easily replace my iPhone with an 8" iPad mini if it got the iPad Pro features/look; so there's at least a market of one for crazy big phones that very much don't fit in a pocket (I consider the Apple Watch to be my primary "phone", though).