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macgui said:

svanstrom said:

red oak said:

And it will signal to the rest of the world that China is now closed for business

That last sentence is so important.

No, it's not, not until it actually happens.

And you completely cut off the rest of what I wrote about it probably not happening; so how about you the next time reply to what people actually have written, or simply go off on your tangent without feeling the need to misrepresent someone else's comment first?

xiao-zhi said:

I stated this here before. 

WeChat is essential to daily life in China and for Chinese elsewhere, so without it, there really is not need to use an iPhone when there are other choices.

He was simply stating a fact.

Apple can thank Trump for killing it’s second largest market.

I can tell you the switch is already starting, people buying a new phone simply won’t chose an iPhone any longer.

This is not about anti-American sentiment but merely practical necessity .

Americans should understand Mr Trump is ruining the reputation of the USA in the world and if he is re-elected things will turn from bad to worse. 

Trump’s endless stream of xenophobic and racist rants, and his use of China as a scapegoat to get re-elected has a price, and Apple and other brands are paying the price.

To put that "killing it's second largest market" into perspective…

China would probably have been Facebook's second, maybe even first, largest market if they'd been allowed in; same with Google if they'd been allowed to simply be accessed from China.

From that perspective USA has been asleep at the wheel, and has completely missed the mark as far as what to focus on as far as China's position in the world as both a trading and (soft) political force/partner.

Banning apps and killing markets is simply the phrasing you end up with as the world is waking up and making important course corrections; to end up with a more level playing field.

jdiamond said:

I know this is a basic question, but I haven't seen it answered anywhere:

Can the US president force a US based company to ban an App in a foreign country?
Or can companies do what they feel like outside the US?

I realize a President could always threaten retaliation on behavior they don't like, but can they actually tell Apple "you cannot offer WeChat in the Chinese App Store?

Just curious if anyone knows?

The simple answer is: Yes.

The less simple answer would be: It kinds depends exactly on how the question is phrased, as well as a number of safeguards within the legal system; and so on.

The simple way of looking at it is that what's happening isn't really that The Person In Charge reaches into another country and controls what's going on there; but rather TPIC puts their hand on the shoulder of a local person and says "you can't have people doing [that] in another country". So legally speaking it kinda sorta is more like the power is used to exhort a local outcome; which otherwise would reach into another country.

So, yes, practically speaking it is possible to influence what can and cannot happen in another country simply by controlling the people/companies that otherwise would be controlling these things in that country.

Alger said:

Just the idea that something you're supposed to spend $200+ on can only be used for a couple years, due to short battery life, just makes this purchase option seem idiotic, unless money is no object.

To me the AirPods Pro are absolutely worth it; because they absolutely up my productivity, which (as a consultant/entrepreneur) translates to profit.

(Money/value is definitely something that I consider purchasing anything; and the AirPods Pro simply are worth it to me, as a professional tool.)

If it'd been any other company the news would have read "Company X nearly doubles […]"; but with Apple it always seem to end up with some expert proclaiming the one true path for Apple to recover after the failure that it is to double their sales and making even more of a profit than ever.