PShimi said:

GeorgeBMac said:

PShimi said:

GeorgeBMac said:

PShimi said:

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Sure.

The below contains links that @GeorgeBMac has requested in support of what I wrote in a previous post. Most (but not all) of them do not talk about WeChat which is really what this thread is supposed to be about, but they do support my comments about what China has been doing, and in that vein, how Apple supporting the CCP over WeChat does not make any sense.

If you are busy and do not have time to look through all the below material, I would HIGHLY suggest you watch this - directly mentions WeChat various times:

Simone Gao documentary, 1 hour long, viewed over 2 million times - discusses how China hid the virus and lied about human to human transmission, including monitoring people via WeChat and using it as a tool of suppression:



Very interesting video that covers various topics but focuses on Canada's CBC extremely worrying pro CCP anti democratic news stories calling Chinese journalists racist against China when they were talking about the Chinese Government (i.e. it would be like saying someone was racist for saying the Nazis were bad - when the Nazis are not a race - a government is NOT a race) and attempts to conflate the CCP with the Chinese people which is again helping the CCP:



How China is gobbling up millions of acres of land, vital infrastructure and companies in Australia
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7725675/How-China-owns-Australia-buying-infrastructure-land-water.html

How China's CCP has taken control of Port Darwin in Australia for 99 years, a very important and strategic port:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-12/why-did-northern-territory-sell-darwin-port-to-china-what-risk/10755720


Google search: australia gum on shoe china
About 3,850,000 results
Suggest this article first:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/29/chewing-gum-stuck-on-the-sole-of-our-shoes-the-china-australia-war-of-words-timeline

Google: Australia threatened by China virus
China's government attempting to use economic coercion to stop Australia looking into virus further. This is in support of the comments I made about how the CCP is trying to remove the link between the CCP and the Virus:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8264031/Chinese-ambassador-threatens-destroy-Australias-economy-coronavirus-probe.html

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-australia-china/australia-rejects-chinese-economic-coercion-threat-amid-planned-coronavirus-probe-idUSKCN2290Z6

Connected with the above story:
'You will feel more pain': China's chilling new threat to devastate Australia's economy if it supports America in a 'new Cold War' (mentions the above stories)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8353231/China-warns-Australia-feel-pain-economic-punishment.html


March earlier this year (well before the US was in the throws of Covid19): China Will Do Anything to Deflect Coronavirus Blame - points to Italy as the starting point of Covid19:
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/03/30/beijing-coronavirus-response-see-what-sticks-propaganda-blame-ccp-xi-jinping/
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3903271


As you can see, the information is out there. You do not need to look very far to find it. It is not as if you have to join some secret club, have a special handshake, and follow some mumbo jumbo.
Using WeChat for business communication is a serious danger not only for businesses but freedom in general. Ignoring this threat is like walking on a bed of snakes and pretending that none of them will bite you.



On to @GeorgeBMac later comments on Trump:

I said nothing about Trump. I find it strange how people often attempt to inject something about Trump when talking about China's CCP. I don't live in the US. I am not American. I do not really follow American politics. China affects the ENTIRE WORLD. How can you not understand that? This is NOT about Trump.

That said, your comment about protecting American businesses - well China is constantly draining information from around the world and using it to it's own ends. IP theft is a thing, it is ABSOLUTELY real. 

China's Harbin Z 20 is a virtual clone of America's Black Hawk.
https://www.businessinsider.com/china-tested-black-hawk-copy-z20-helicopter-on-advanced-destroyer-2019-7?r=US&IR=T

South China morning post called "China’s Z-20 Black Hawk lookalike"
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3033088/chinas-z-20-black-hawk-lookalike-and-flying-saucer-concept

A bunch of fighter jets that are near copies:
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/aviation/g23303922/china-copycat-air-force/


The point is - these are copied from the militaries of the world - who are 'well protected' and yet the CCP still manages to steal their data. Compared to this, stealing information from businesses is child's play, and WeChat makes this even easier.

So again, what is Apple doing!? It makes NO sense.

I was talking about evidence.   Not propaganda and selective 'facts'.

We do have hard evidence that Russia has attacked our last two elections and is proceeding to attack this one as well.  But for some reason Trump and his Trumpers ignore that and hyperfocus on China hate.   Why is that?   Could Russia be aiding Trump and China just a distraction?  

Around 11 different sources - is 'selective'? Well look, just Google it yourself. I just provided suggestions and tried to select from a variety of different sources on purpose to avoid being 'selective', but whatever.

Australia being bullied by China is propaganda. Um, OK. That's weird. I'm sure you know more than people in Australia do, apparently.

You clearly did not read my reply where I think I made it pretty clear I don't give a toss about Trump.

As for China 'hate' - this is getting a bit much. I am deeply concerned about the plight of the Chinese people in China due to what the CCP is doing to them, and what CCP is doing to the world. Everyone should be concerned about this. Don't think for a moment that what happened to Hong Kong is going to be the end of their aggression. Long after Trump is out of power, this is still going to be an issue for the world. It's not going to magically disappear.

At the end of the day, China uses WeChat to monitor people - Chinese people know that all too well.
By pushing WeChat to remain in use Apple are supporting the CCP to suppress the Chinese people.

If you don't want to understand, that's up to you. No one can open your eyes for you.

tomasulu said:

raulcristian said:

OK, folks, this is where it hits Apple.

This Trump nonsense of sanctions, trade wars, and bravado will make Apple sales tank in China.

And probably, in any other country where TikTok and WeChat is popular.

Now if only Trump has a single proof of illegal behavior on ByteDance, which is funded by (among others) several American firms. 

This. I’m not Chinese and have been as big a fan of Apple As anyone. I own most of apples products and paid services such as iCloud and music. Even as I look at some of the newer android phones with some envy I don’t see myself switching because of how invested I’m with apples ecosystem. But if Apple removed WeChat which I use for work (with Chinese and many around the world), I will have to get myself an android phone. And I think that will be the beginning of a move away from Apple. 

CheeseFreeze said:

Apple really needs to produce a monitor below their Pro model. More in the $1500 to $2000 range.

nasserae said:

I demand that Telegram open up their platform so I can create my own Telegram compatible messaging app and I don't want to pay them for that.

From https://core.telegram.org/:

Telegram APIs

We offer two kinds of APIs for developers. The Bot API allows you to easily create programs that use Telegram messages for an interface. The Telegram API and TDLib allow you to build your own customized Telegram clients. You are welcome to use both APIs free of charge.

You can also add Telegram Widgets to your website.

Designers are welcome to create Animated Stickers or Custom Themes for Telegram.