atomic101

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DylanAlphonse said:

You will think very differently about these rules when someone(s) around had died due to Covid. I am in Asia and I heard more in US had died because of Covid19 than Sep 11

That's just media fear mongering and a pretty useless comparison in my opinion.

More than sept 11?  Another comparison that I've seen the garbage media make is D-Day, lol.

In 2017 in the USA:

Heart Disease  647,457  - - - OMG that's 215 Sept 11s every single year, and just from heart disease! 

Cancer  599,108 - - - OMG that's 199 Sept 11s every single year!

Accidents 169,936 - - - OMG, that's 56 Sept 11s every single year! People should be more careful so that they don't get into accidents. Maybe we should shut down society completely and save at least 170,000 lives this year

The plain old regular Flu and pneumonia  55,672 - - - OMG, that's like 18 Sept 11s every single year!   If everybody were confined to their homes 24-7-365 and never went outside, nobody would catch the Flu anymore and we wouldn't have tens of thousands dying from the Flu each year. 

I don't see anybody getting all hysterical about those deaths. 

It's important to keep things in perspective. So far, all of the death totals for the virus are far, far lower than many of the insane, delusional and clueless predictions that have come from a variety of sources.

I'd say we're doing pretty good. 

StrangeDays said:

roake said:

iadlib said:

Can they be sued for that? Selling a product that you later find out was intentionally hobbled?

While I suppose people can sue for anything, I think the spirit of the answer is no.  The original device met the specifications it was advertised with.  The fact that it had an underlying inactivated graphics core should be legally irrelevant.  Perhaps the had cooling or other issues with the overall design when that core was active.

It’s not that it was “inactivated” previously. Making chips is hard, many chips fail to achieve 100% of the desired features. The failure/success rate is the yield. Over time you get better at making them and your yield improves. Doing it at scale is a massive undertaking. Now making the A12 series is hitting better numbers, resulting in chips with the full number of cores.

zroger73 said:

I still can't tell the difference between 720p, 1080p, and 4K content from a distance of 10 feet on a 65" TV and I have 20/20 vision. I can tell the difference from a few feet away, but that's too close to be watching a 65" screen.

SpamSandwich said:

atomic101 said:

EsquireCats said:

larrya said:

You guys are pathetic.  Apple cut performance by more than 50% and didn't bother telling anyone, and yet in Apple stores customers were told their batteries were fine, even refusing to provide paid replacements, and were encouraged to purchase new phones.  This is fraud, and the prosecutor's conclusion is uncontested by Apple.  You can love their products, as I do, without wearing blinders.

Actually you're pathetic: Apple didn't cut performance by 50% and CPU throttling has always been a device management strategy in the iPhone.

1. iPhones already throttled peak performance prior to these patches. E.g. For temperature extremes and preserving battery life.
2. The changes in iOS 10.2 and 11.2 extended the CPU throttling features to untenable battery scenarios - i.e. situations which would normally turn off the device. Apple acknowledged that unexpected shutdowns were being addressed at the time.
3. The most common worst case scenario resulted in a geek bench score of 2,500 being reduced to 1,500 during a peak load. The device operated at "normal" speeds during other times when the battery was able to supply sufficient power, or not under a stressful load.

Apple cut performance by more than 50%

Not only was peak load not reduced by 50%, but normal device usage was unaffected. Your comment lends to the idea that the phone was suddenly half as fast as before the update - there is no foundation for that.

...and didn't bother telling anyone

It was literally in Apple's statements about the update: "With iOS 10.2.1, Apple made improvements to reduce occurrences of unexpected shutdowns that a small number of users were experiencing with their iPhone."

Of all the devices tested in Geek bench 4 under iOS 10.2.1, the overwhelming majority had no change in performance and the average decrease in peak performance due to the new changes was ~10 - 15% 

So yeah your post is total sensationalist crap, and I think that's pathetic.

"3. The most common worst case scenario resulted in a geek bench score of 2,500 being reduced to 1,500 during a peak load. The device operated at "normal" speeds during other times when the battery was able to supply sufficient power, or not under a stressful load."


I can attest to this being wrong.  My device (iPhone SE) would function at 50% CPU speed and STAY that way.  No matter if the device was fully charged or plugged in.  This from a battery that still tested "ok" by Apple techs.  The situation only resolved itself after Apple admitted to their shennanigans and I was "allowed" to replace my battery.   I posted before and after screenshots two years ago indicating this.  THIS is where my bitterness still stems from...

People here are so defensive about the company.  Sometimes even fans need to take their blinders off every now and then.

Exactly how long do you expect a phone or battery to last?