Alex_V

sdw2001 said:

First, I wasn't aware that I owed you a book report on the "central questions of our time."  If you would like to discuss so-called climate change, its impacts and potential solutions, I'm happy to do that.  

Secondly, I notice it's become a fashionable deflection to scream "whataboutism!!!" when leftist hypocrisy is exposed.  Our elites (Chaaahhles, other royals, politicians, actors, billionaires, etc.) frequently fly all around the world and use massive gas-powered motorcades (like Biden's 85 vehicle one at COP) to lecture everyone on the dangers of fossil fuels, eating meat and dairy, driving cars and other activities that most of the planet does.  They crow on about an "emergency" while they are emitting more carbon than the average person could in years.  So yes, it's hypocrisy.  Utter hypocrisy.  And since they all have enough resources to overcome the expense and inconvenience of high fuel and food prices, home prices, blackouts, high taxes, and supply shortages, it's pure, arrogant elitism.  

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I won’t waste precious time debating established science with deniers. George Orwell was wrong, we didn’t end up with “big brother” feeding us a fabricated world of fiction. After all, sincere, truthful and scientific answers to our questions are at our fingertips on Wikipedia; journalists the world over report the truth as best they can etc. Instead, we’ve got thousands of “little brothers” like you on social media avidly spreading politically-inspired lies. 

I’ll summarise your awfully long paragraph describing yourself, thus: “I’m just another Republican voter.” It’s amusing how you have absorbed your political party’s orthodoxy into your personal value system. 

About “hypocrisy” and whataboutism: one cannot practice environmentalism in our disaster capitalist context. That is like walking East on a train that is travelling West. Without scientists and activists, there would be no awareness of the problems and issues. You attack the messenger to deflect from the message. Nothing new, every activist throughout history was insulted, spat on, assaulted, imprisoned, banished, murdered, executed etc. Still, you will be glad to hear that this week, an indigenous Amazonian girl who spoke about the environment crisis at the Cop26 meeting has received insults and death threats from Brazilian Bolsonaro supporters (conservatives like you). After all, she’s a hypocrite because she probably flew to Glasgow on an airplane. 

sbdude said:

Alex_V said:

sdw2001 said:

If this doesn't represent how out of touch our elite class is, I don't know what does.  Not to slam AI at all here, but this is a story about a former Apple design chief who "unveiled" a.....logo.  But wait, it's better.  It's a logo for an abstract "sustainability" initiative pushed by professional climate lunatic, hypocrite and royal bag of douche, Prince Chaahhles.  I get why AI would cover it...Jonny Ive was responsible for such much that is Apple.  But this guy seems to have become a caricature of himself.  Remember the parodies about (fake) Apple product introductions? That's nearly what this is.  I'd like it better if he, you know, designed a beautiful product that was functional and helped the environment. 

Regardless of the merits of the logo, when you have nothing to say about the central questions of our time, you resort to calling people ‘hypocrites,’ it’s easy, and it’s a form of pointless ‘whataboutism.’ But, the simple truth is that the conservative intends to conserve only power and privilege, nothing else. Certainly NOT nature. They deeply resent anyone who points out problems, crises, or the insanity of their beloved political-economic system. So, they resort to slander, as they did with Rachel Carson, Dr King, and continue to do with Prince Charles, Al Gore and Greta Thunberg. 

I guess turnabout is fair game, then? So you counter whataboutisms with blanket statements and gross assumptions? I happen to be conservative, and I also happen to have solar on my house, all LED lighting, a plug-in hybrid, and drip irrigation on a smart controller, just to name a few. So what now? Conservatives can care about nature.

Also, in case you missed that part in history class, Dr. Martin Luther King was a Republican, and Republicans abolished slavery. The Democrats were not, but they've done a really great job of helping you forget. Or do they not teach that in history class these days?

iOS_Guy80 said:

Have visited the Apple store twice in the last month will continue to wear a mask regardless  of the mandate easement.