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avon b7 said:Bart Y said:
It is your standard support issue listing that could apply to any phone from any manufacturer.
Like I said, nothing indicates any model is plagued by issues.Samsung isn’t above having another Note 7 or initial Fold failure again. IMO.
Marvin said:red oak said:There is almost zero evidence any of these foldable phones (including the ones from Samsung) sell in any measurable volume
The following says the Galaxy Z Flip made up 4.6 million:
The Z Fold and Huawei P50 were the next best sellers. Likely somewhere around 2 million each.
Most of the foldables are for the compact phone like the old Razr phones and not like the foldable tablets. There are probably some of the over 100 million people who bought the old style flip phones and liked the form factor.
This is a lower sales volume than the iPhone mini. If Apple wanted to cater to the audience for compact phones, they could just keep making the iPhone mini series.
Bending any glass means making it weaker and it will crease.
red oak said:There is almost zero evidence any of these foldable phones (including the ones from Samsung) sell in any measurable volume
Anyone who thinks Apple is now “ too far behind” is someone you need to avoid on all things Apple 🍎
Anyway, 6-9M is a terribly low number of market units to commit R&D, parts sourcing (especially fragile, low reliability and availability Samsung units), and production for Apple IF it’s to meet Apple’s standards for reliability, longevity, quality, and functionality. Better to wait till Apple and suppliers perfect this further and even then whether it still makes any sense financially or reputation wise.Last quarter Samsung touted how its Mobile division made YOY 13% more revenue on >sales of S22 Ultra and Foldables ($22.4B USD total) YET glossed over how it made ONLY $2.00B total operating profit, a drop of 19% YOY. Foldables and S22 flagships should be the most profitable lines so either they aren’t selling well or Samsung is blustering to save face. And I’d say <10M units is ok but not selling well enough, and certainly not enough for Apple to get into this market.
avon b7 said:" Many of the first foldable devices were plagued by reliability issues"
I'm unaware of any foldable phone being plagued with reliability issues. Quite the opposite is true.
AFAIK, all folding phones that have come to market have had great reliability so far.
For the Samsung Fold, many review units were damaged by reviewers trying to remove a screen coating that should not have been removed.
Once that was corrected, along with some further design enhancements, the units that were released performed well.
I’m guessing probably the same on US Samsung Community. I’ll link in next post.
tyler82 said:mac_dog said:GeorgeBMac said:Maybe they could send them some batteries -- or ideas on how to build an electric grid.
Ironically, the Biden administration is sending additional food, water, blankets, supplies to Texas. One has to wonder if the Texas state government will stop it at the border, allow it to come in, or otherwise not use it so as to no appear to accept federal aid. Plus the federal government is now going to look into Texas' electrical grid and again recommend ways to harden the grid against bad weather. Oh, and one more thing. With all the snow and ice on the ground. and warmer weather on its way, what about potential flooding in flood prone areas like Houston as the snow melts?