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CheeseFreeze said:What an anti-EU sentiment on this forum by a bunch of Americans who look at the world in two dimensions.
Unbelievable, considering how America has been screwing up most of pretty much everything.
Most seem not even to know what democratic socialism is, and the fact that capitalism is also very much a part of society in EU countries. For Americans it seems to be a lot of “this versus that”.
I'm not saying the Fortnight player themselves looks like dorks. I'm saying that the avatar they are stuck with, when not paying for a cool outfit, looks like dorks. And that's to be expected, as Epic wants players to pay for cool looking outfits. If the free avatars looks cool to begin with, there would be less need for player to pay for cool looking outfits.Tell the third party retailers selling to Amazon customers in Amazon MarketPlace, that in the real world, they don't have to go through Amazon checkout payment method.paying through an iTunes account, the customer can fund their account with a CC (including American Express and Discover), Apple Pay, debit card, PayPal and gift cards paid for with cash. You think Epic is going to allow as many options? Plus iTunes gift cards can often be purchased at a discount.This has nothing to do with a retailer having the right to use what payment method they want or giving the customers more choices as to how to pay. This is about Epic not wanting to pay Apple and Google a commission for access to iOS and Android platform customers. You don't hear Epic making the same demand on Microsoft, Sony or Nintendo platforms. Or Amazon MarketPlace sellers demanding to use other payment methods, other than Amazon checkout, so they can avoid paying Amazon a commission for accessing customers on Amazon's market platform.If Epic were to lower the cost across all platforms based on the savings they get from not having to pay the 30% "tax" on iOS and Android platforms, then that would mean the Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo 30% "tax" would amount to less money for them, as Fortnight Bucks would cost less. Good for Fortnight players on all platforms, but Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo are not going to be too happy with that. That's why Epic can not pass on their savings if they were to lower their overall cost by not having to pay the iOS and Android 30% "tax". They will keep the savings for themselves. Or Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo will have to charge Epic more than a 30% "tax", for hosting Fortnight on their platforms, to make up for the loss of Fortnight players spending less to play.
Epic makes their money by selling virtual goods to players so they look less dorky and more cool.davidw said:
Players buy these virtual items using Fortnight Bucks, that they pay for with real money. $10 of real money buys a player $20 worth of Fortnight Bucks. When they buy these Fortnight Bucks, the owner of the platform from which they were bought, gets a 30% cut (of the real dollars, not the Fortnight Bucks). Be it Microsoft, Sony, Apple, Google, Nintendo, etc.
If Epic can remove the external costs of sales and manage it themselves on their own platform, they can expect a certain percentage of the sales to have a lower cost and therefore the price across all platforms can be lowered accordingly.
The alternative would be for Epic to sell their game currency at a flat fee across all platforms and ADD a transaction fee based on the platform the user is purchasing from, but all the platforms would HATE that because Epic would be forcing pricing transparency and the end users would see clearly how much the platform is taking for every one of their sales.
CheeseFreeze said:Imagine having to rent your house from only Teo landlords available in the entire world.... How does that situation sound to you? Not great, right?
digitol said:Epic games is legally wrong. Apples guidelines are clear. 30%. Always has Been. Epic signed the deal and now they want to go back on that agreement. Nope.