weirdosmurf

dabigkahuna said:

weirdosmurf said:

Umm... just to clarify for any readers who don’t know what you’re talking about; your [dabigkahuna’s] various accounts [and sock puppet accounts] have been banned on multiple forums from multiple different forum administrators

Except there was only one case outside of the subreddits that were run by Rolanbek, weirdosmurf, and others who act the same.

And you left out the part that the first time I was banned on your subreddit was AFTER I found out people were talking about me there AND some were pretending to be me. I was not even a member of Reddit before I saw that happening. So I made a couple posts, responding to people who were talking about me (that is, whey had made me the issue even though I wasn't even there) and was immediately banned for being "off topic" (in spite of responding to what someone else made the topic) and told they didn't want "any of that here". Which much have meant they wanted to be able to attack me, but didn't want any rebuttal. Yet none of those people who started it were banned.

> As for sarcasm bit; sarcasm and lying are definitely not the same thing

In this case, since there was nothing showing it was sarcasm, the definition to you must be something like, "We are fine with the lying, but if we get called on it, we'll say we were being sarcastic".

dabigkahuna said:

weirdosmurf said:

> I’m simply stating that I don’t think most “average” people think in those “potential” terms - they think “5pm on a Friday night in Santa Monica

Most such folks, even IF they thought that way as a starting, default, view (which can not actually be proven, btw), would be willing to adjust their opinion if the other options were presented. Which may include:

1. WayTools works on Saturdays too.
2. Mark does some of his work on Sundays.
3. Regardless of what hours and days they work, the week isn't over on Friday.
4. Etc, etc, etc

Average people tend, when presented with all the facts, to be pretty rational. They may not like waiting past Friday, but they can accept other reasonable meanings that they did not originally think of once they are pointed out.

So, when are you going to retract your claim that I was advocating an "endlessly flexible" time frame for what is the end of a week? I mean, I gave a pretty definite maximum cutoff which, I'm pretty sure, directly contradicts the "endlessly" part of your claim.

As always, there is plenty of opportunity to criticize - including the fact that this latest update was delayed until Saturday, until Sunday, until Monday and here we are on Tuesday and it still isn't here. Yet you still are stuck on what the end of the week is, trying to make it all about Fridays.

dabigkahuna said:

weirdosmurf said

I certainly come a hell of a lot closer to what “the average person thinks” than some of your endlessly-variable-flexible-rationalisations for missing deadlines...

You still get it wrong. Consistency isn't always a good thing!

My stuff isn't "endlessly-variable-flexible-rationalasations" for missing the updates. It was, in fact, quite limited. Here is the difference, based on my oft-cited example:

"Next week" can obviously mean any time up until the end of the week, thus the only question is when is the end of the week. You pick ONE possibility (5:00-5:30 PM on Friday). Thus, if they don't make it by that day/time, you can complain that they missed it.

I show multiple, but very limited, ways end of the week is measured. Guess what, if they don't make any of those, you still can complain that they missed it.

It seems to show a strange desire to criticize as soon as possible. 

Then we have the false claims, like yours, that my deadlines are "endlessly variable" when, in fact, they are not. Or Alex's who flat out posts falsehoods that claim I say Friday is really Monday. So, not just a strange desire to criticize as soon as possible (and that doesn't count those who on a Tuesday or Wednesday declare WT is late), but a strange need to misrepresent what others actually say.

Maybe there is some psychological term, but I just call it being dishonest.

dabigkahuna said:

weirdosmurf said:

I think it entirely fair to say the average “run-of-the-mill-punter” would say 9-to-5 Monday to Friday Santa Monica time would be reasonable... anything else would be someone filtering a standard expectation through a filter of what they perceive to be acceptable

You don't speak for what the average person thinks. Some may agree with you, but it simply isn't the only reasonable measurement.

BTW, to filter something would be to remove something. So the only person filtering was you.

dabigkahuna said:

weirdosmurf said:

They’re a business, and standard business hours are Monday to Friday 9-5 (you could possibly stretch that to 5:30...).

This is great - a clear example of how you and some other critics can't consider anything except your own assumptions and you'll limit word meanings to do it! I laid out the the different - and all perfectly reasonable - meanings for when a week could be considered to be ending. Your counter-argument is essentially just to say, "Well, this is one of them and it is the only one that is allowed". You don't even allow the day to be over! And, of course, you pick the most restrictive meaning. That is sufficient for my point, but let's go into it in more detail, just for fun.

You may not be aware of it, but businesses usually aren't making posts. People do. Any statement a person makes should be taken within the context THEY mean. After all, is is their words, not yours. If they say, "Next week", you don't get to apply a single limited meaning to it.

You don't even know what WT's hours are. And even if they only work M-F, that doesn't mean those are the only days Mark works. And I know enough that he is working well beyond normal work hours, whether his employees do or not.

It like how some critics say, "WT said 9:00 PM, but they didn't say what time zone". Or they said "Spring", but they didn't say what hemisphere. Because the context would be the time zone and hemisphere they are in. This is common sense.

And since an update on the internet isn't limited by when someone is available during business hours anyway - and we already know many updates have come well after business hours - you have to ignore that context as well.

It's all about critics trying to find anything to complain about so that they try to limit the meaning of words to give themselves a bogus excuse. And, amazingly, they do this even when there are plenty of legitimate things to complain about!

BTW, while I made this point about when a week could be considered to be over based on some saying it was Friday, the fact of the matter is, when I first did this years ago, it was because a critic declared that WT had lied about "next week" ON A TUESDAY or WEDNESDAY! That's how ridiculous some of the critics are in your effort to criticize.