weirdosmurf

dabigkahuna said:

weirdosmurf said:

Ummmm... I don’t even know what you mean

That's nice. I just note that you don't withdraw your claim about me leaving out context - when the context you claim I left out wasn't even posted until after the post I was responding to.

Your lack of understanding doesn't matter to me, mostly because I don't believe you.

I’m not quite sure how I’ll go on living knowing you don’t believe me...

”Context” you keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means... 

Thwap...! (Damn mosquitoes...)

dabigkahuna said:

weirdosmurf said:

“Tend not to be responsive to people who twist things...”....your post history completely contradicts your statement

That’s the equivalent of saying “I’m gonna hold my breath until you give me what I want

1. Oh, I respond to the posts. I just don't try to be responsive to what you want me to do. So, no contradiction. You want me to respond to this later statement, fine. But FIRST withdraw your claim that left it out to begin with (since it didn't exist at the time, I couldn't leave it out). Frankly, I don't think you'll do it.

2. No breath holding. Just telling you up front that you don't get to leave a fib on the table if you want to discuss something else with me.

Ummmm... I don’t even know what you mean... Let me see if i’ve got this right...you won’t discuss a rational subject about the topic of this thread for what reason...? Because you feel a fib has been told about you? By me? Seriously? Right, wrong or otherwise, that’s the most flimsy rationale for refusing to discuss a rational topic... that’s playground/sandbox logic at it’s finest...

I think you’ve gone so far down a rabbit hole in your “fight against the perceived forces of evil” that the rest of the world is up on the surface scratching their heads saying “Huh...?”

>Frankly I don’t think you’ll do it.

Uhhhh... kewl........... Here’s another Internet for you... [shrug]

Swat...! (Damn mosquitoes...)

dabigkahuna said:

alexonline said:

It’s official then - WT missed their own deadline - there they go again -

and again, you ignore WSmurf in what, after 5 or so times of him trying, in what can only be seen as a cowardly manner, as you ignore it completely - there you go, AGAIN.

1. Yep, they sure did. And I criticized them about this for days. So?

2. I ignored smurf's post about his "context" because awhile back he fibbed and said I had left out his context (when I was pointing out he said I kept using a word which, in fact, I rarely ever use). But I had NOT left out the context. Because the stuff he said I left out was not even posted until many posts later!

So I've pretty much ignored it since. I tend not to be responsive to people who twist things.

Now, if he wants to publicly withdraw the claim that I left out that context (since it didn't exist at the time), I may be willing to address it now. Actually, if you read it yourself you would also know I actually have addressed a number of those things in the past.

That’s a rationalisation, not reason... (and point 2 is just hilarious 2nd grade petulance and fantasy - although it is slightly related to the original context since The Princess Bride is a fantasy novel/movie... I’m not sure if that was intentional on your part... I tend to suspect petulance...)

“Tend not to be responsive to people who twist things...”...? Seriously...? Really...? Bwahahahahahahaha...! You have a word count of about 3 million railing against people who you feel have “twisted things”, “made assumptions” or “just make stuff up”... your post history completely contradicts your statement... you respond to me plenty; you just choose not to engage if something is not pugilistic toward the fights you want to fight...

You’ve stated multiple times you’d prefer to discuss the TextBlade and stick to that or Waytools as primary subjects, but when presented with an opportunity, your post history shreds that concept completely... (oh dear, I’ve hyperventilated laughing... someone please find me a Ventolin inhaler...!)

dabigkahuna said:.

Now, if he wants to publicly withdraw the claim that I left out that context (since it didn't exist at the time), I may be willing to address it now. Actually, if you read it yourself you would also know I actually have addressed a number of those things in the past.

That’s the equivalent of saying “I’m gonna hold my breath until you give me what I want... and if I die from holding my breath, you’ll all be sorry...” It kinda sounds like a schoolkid in the playground trying to validate and rationalise why he isn’t really embarrassed after he was pantsed... I’ve never known you to be shy of repeating points... why is suddenly repeating yourself when it comes to that particular subject reason to suddenly be reticent? More to do with “not wanting to give a kid from the blue team and bloody satisfaction whatsoever...” I tend to think...

When presented with an opportunity to engage with a reasonable and civilised point, you rationalised why it’s ok to ignore that bit, conveniently pivot and sidestep it, and focus on the parts which help perpetuate the narrative of you “being the sole saviour of civility in a world populated by barbarians...”. I hate to tell you, but that’s not new... there’s a reason it’s called “tilting at windmills”...

If you choose to ignore the reasonable and civilised but then insist on focusing back on the issues of the self in some self-congratulatory fight to punish those you must feel have slighted you, then that in and of itself speaks greater volumes than anything I could add - people will draw their own conclusions and I think you’ll discover you’re stranded on an island of one on that score no matter how many times you cry “doesn’t matter, I was right, Chester was wrong, he started it so I was justified in pushing him down the stairs - I don’t care if he is now in intensive care... it was his fault...!”

Swat! (Damn mosquitoes...)

  

Here’s yet another opportunity to focus on Waytools and (lack of) TextBlades in an entirely reasonable and civilised setting. You can always choose to focus on the fight - I’m powerless to stop you - or you could choose to focus on the civilised and reasonable, there are two clear choices (unambiguous, no traps, no hidden games or double meanings... a clear and straightforward choice...)

Here it is... yet again:
>What I am in this particular context is a customer of Waytools who is frustrated and feels poorly served by the company. The company does not appear keen to engage and is extremely poor at customer relations and is extremely (overly) sensitive to criticism. The company have been extremely vague in their use of timeframes - so much so that they insist (with you as a staunch defender) they have never actually missed a deadline since they never actually gave a deadline; merely an estimate... and yet a significant number of customers feel they were deceived. The company dangles a carrot (early adopter gift of “significant value”) out without stating what it is whilst at the same time urging dissatisfied people to use the refund button; that denies people the ability to make an informed decision by keeping them uninformed about a key piece of information. And on the point of refunds, the company states (on this forum) the decision to keep an order or seek a refund sits entirely with the customer and yet that same company has unilaterally enforced refunds to customers who have vented their displeasure. Last and by no means least, the company maintains a forum (complete with a “rants” section) and yet a number of customers who have “ranted” have been shadow banned from the forum, silencing their dissent - anyserious dissent. There are more, but I can’t sit here typing on an Internet forum all day (not typed on a TextBlade btw)... I have work to crack on with...

>All of this is quite uncool and certainly justifies the voices here complaining. Attacking the messengers and changing the frame of reference in order to validate attacking the messengers doesn’t change the validity of those complaints.

Knock yourself out and by all means prove me wrong and focus on the last portion of this post - in fact nothing could make me happier... (although if your goal is to avoid making me happy under any circumstances, that too is telling...). I firmly believe you’ll fight, fight, fight and stick to the top part of the post... (and yes, that last little tweak of the nose is a tempting morsel, a dare, I might say... it’s childishly obvious so let’s see if you’re capable of being bigger than the boy who pushed Chester down the stairs and claims he did nothing wrong and avoiding the urge to squabble and bicker for squabbling and bickering’s sake... the choice is stark; bicker about yourself and your frame of “right and wrong”, or discuss Waytools and the TextBlade...)

dabigkahuna said:

If you don't want it to be about me, don't make it about me to start with. The only consistent thing I'm seeing is that you and others want to make it about me, but don't want any rebuttal. Funny how I don't tell people not to respond or not to post, etc.

It isn’t “funny”, it’s a result of pathology: you “don’t tell people not to respond or post” because you enjoy the back-and-forth combat...

You rationalise it as “truth-telling”, but the reality is, I think you just enjoy the fight more than anything else.

All your self-focus does is act as a convenient shield for Waytools who get to happily sit back and say “phew... dbk is running interference for us again (unwittingly, wittingly or half-wittingly...) and we now confidently know we’ll have quite a bit of breathing room as this will drag on for ages and ages...”

I’d be more than happy to be focus on Waytools and their product. I’ve written extensively on the subject again, but rather than focus on those portions of a post, you have a demonstrated history of choosing to make the focus any part of a post about you, even if that part is minuscule, tangential or irrelevant to the main, salient point.

Here’s the post (for maybe the fourth or fifth time) which you have continually sidestepped.

>What I am in this particular context is a customer of Waytools who is frustrated and feels poorly served by the company. The company does not appear keen to engage and is extremely poor at customer relations and is extremely (overly) sensitive to criticism. The company have been extremely vague in their use of timeframes - so much so that they insist (with you as a staunch defender) they have never actually missed a deadline since they never actually gave a deadline; merely an estimate... and yet a significant number of customers feel they were deceived. The company dangles a carrot (early adopter gift of “significant value”) out without stating what it is whilst at the same time urging dissatisfied people to use the refund button; that denies people the ability to make an informed decision by keeping them uninformed about a key piece of information. And on the point of refunds, the company states (on this forum) the decision to keep an order or seek a refund sits entirely with the customer and yet that same company has unilaterally enforced refunds to customers who have vented their displeasure. Last and by no means least, the company maintains a forum (complete with a “rants” section) and yet a number of customers who have “ranted” have been shadow banned from the forum, silencing their dissent - anyserious dissent. There are more, but I can’t sit here typing on an Internet forum all day (not typed on a TextBlade btw)... I have work to crack on with...

>All of this is quite uncool and certainly justifies the voices here complaining. Attacking the messengers and changing the frame of reference in order to validate attacking the messengers doesn’t change the validity of those complaints.

This doesn’t appear unreasonable of vicious to me (although I am biased since I wrote it) so I’d be curious as to whether you chose to discuss reasonably about it or whether you chose to sidestep it and chose to focus on the dbk-bit because it affords you an opportunity to fight, fight, fight...

I’ll even throw you a bone; I think some of the discussion about you and BASIC programming got out of hand and was on the unfair side. I do wince when I read your Waytools bio though because it dramatically overstates and inflates something that is essentially irrelevant in the 21st Century. I was a kid and banged out some stuff in BASIC in the 80s, but I would be embarrassed to imply I was anything remotely close to a programmer - it would be disingenuous and a massive vanity exercise... I think people were ridiculing that part of the equation; i.e. it might be akin to me shooting a few hoops with my classmates on a Friday evening, but conflating it to something much grandiose by saying something like; “I played ball at my college in my college days...”... when exposed for the truth, it becomes embarrassing that someone would even mention it in the first place... In the programming world, programmers find it insulting that someone who “knocked about with BASIC” back in the 70s and 80s but has done nothing since then would conflate themselves in any way with the modern programming world.

That you might not see that bio as being cringe-worthy goes more toward a lack of awareness. There’s nothing wrong with being unaware; we all don’t know what we don’t know, but after having been made aware, perhaps you might make adjustments or changes. Doubling down and making no adjustments in the face of responses simply goes to an unwillingness to bend - that will undoubtedly lead to increasing derision and ridicule.

As in all things, our choices lay us bare to the universe. Everyone rationalises to some small degree to make themselves feel justified in their choices, but our rationalisations mostly work on ourselves, not on others (i.e. I rationalise my taking offence to boy bands, but whilst I see it as entirely reasonable an “obvious to all”, do most regular, reasonable people think the same as me...? Who is being reasonable about it and who not... me, or the rest of the reasonable world; you decide... ).

dabigkahuna said:

weirdosmurf said:

I must admit, I find it frustrating that Waytools get off the hook due to one non-employee carrying water for them and helping deflect the attention away from them.

Maybe you could notice that critics who don’t make me the issue either don’t get me posting to them or, when I do, there is a lot of agreement. 

And by that same token, maybe you could notice that every time you make unctuous posts, people react negatively, but you continue to make unctuous posts... “Feedback” and “adjusting” seem to be qualities for other people but not ones you’re particularly bothered by or interested in.

You were never “the issue”, merely a symptom. Hate to burst your bubble but whilst you may well be the most voluminous and frequent poster in the history of any and all threads and forums to do with TextBlades and Waytoolses, the sad (and somewhat pathetic) reality of your status is that had Waytools launched as they’d “meant” (intended) to - in early 2015, there would be precious few who even knew who you were. “dabigkahuna” would be entirely synonymous with Pulp Fiction and have nothing whatsoever to do in the minds of customers with the TextBlade. The core “issue” for which you are but the symptom is Waytools failure to deliver a product (for whatever reason; legitimate or not...)

Unfortunately if the core cause is not ever dealt with, symptoms have a nasty habit of spreading and flourishing and then you’ve got a full blown epidemic on your hands and it’s infecting lots of new people...

That you genuinely might believe people consider you in any way “the issue” grants you a grandeur far, far in excess of the reality and it is a status given to you by yourself for the glory of - yourself. In reality, more people than not find you an irritant and a pest - terribly annoying and distracting but by no means “the issue”. From my interactions and conversations with people (many either venting their frustrations or privately encouraging me not to enable your domineering behaviour), they find you a self important blowhard in dire need of a bubble-bursting. The most irritating thing for them is that you end up distracting, diverting and pivoting away from the actual issue; TextBlades (or lack thereof...) and Waytools. You fail to “read the room” and insert yourself unasked and end up distracting from, and shielding Waytools. I think it’s perfectly understandable that people get annoyed at you - I also think it’s perfectly understandable when people get annoyed by a persistent mosquito. It doesn’t mean that was the core topic of their dinner table conversation

The only actual issue where you are the true “main event” is an issue of pure self obsession. You may need to consider, the only one insisting on making you the topic, is you...

(Everything is naturally entirely subjective of course... I’m sure there are those out there who haven’t had the “full dbk experience” yet who read my posts with some puzzlement thinking “what an odd person... terribly undergraduate and juvenile at times and then there’s this whole second other writing style... most peculiar...”... and with that in mind, who am I to judge... )