nadriel

dk49 said:

How can they change the RAM or Memory? Isn't it integrated in the SOC at circuit level? It's like saying you can take out four cores from the M1 to make it a quad core processor!

They are not “integrated”, they are standard modules soldered on the circuits (motherboard, SoC circuit board). For example a RAM stick is a small circuit board with modules and controllers, etc, soldered on it.

Apple do not have their own special memory and storage modules, the pin layout is quite standard. There might be some difference on how they are controlled (calls for the memory controller to store, read, clear data).

It’s not the same as having something integrated on a same module. But I wouldn’t attempt at it myself even if I had the tools available.

I’d say it’s like scraping off existing paint and repainting something, rather than taking cores from a CPU die.

Reading philboogie said:

I never gave it much thought, but this piece on a breakdown of an Apple power adapter, switching power supply , is a must-read:

"Macbook charger teardown: The surprising complexity inside Apple's power adapter"

http:// www.righto .com/2015/11/macbook-charger-teardown-surprising.html

[quote}:

Apple's involvement with switching power supplies goes back to 1977 when Apple's chief engineer Rod Holt designed a switching power supply for the Apple II. According to Steve Jobs:

"That switching power supply was as revolutionary as the Apple II logic board was. Rod doesn't get a lot of credit for this in the history books but he should. Every computer now uses switching power supplies, and they all rip off Rod Holt's design."

And just after that quote article continues:
” This is a fantastic quote, but unfortunately it is entirely false. The switching power supply revolution happened before Apple came along, Apple's design was similar to earlier power supplies[4] and other computers don't use Rod Holt's design. Nevertheless, Apple has extensively used switching power supplies and pushes the limits of charger design with their compact, stylish and advanced chargers.”

But again, this reminded me about that it’s not only greed that costs with Apple products. Thanks for the link, interesting read!

AppleExposed said:

CloudTalkin said:

AppleExposed said:

nadriel said:

melgross said:

Apple claims (and they have a fair number of OLED patents), that while their screens are made by Samsung, they include Apple technology. I don’t know exactly what that means, but it’s somewhat different than Samsung’s screens they use for themselves, and presumably from those they sell to others, rather than to Apple.

I’d guess the panel is as said Samsung made but the display processor that communicates with gpu is apple made processing unit. It handles all the color, brightness etc adjustments. 

Samsung isn't involved in iPhone development. They just own plants that fulfill orders. That's it. Anyone else (LG, Japan Display, etc.) could do this if they were capable of fulfilling the large orders Apple demands. Right now only Samsungs plant can fulfill these large orders, They have absolutely nothing to do with iPhone development. Heck, they don't even develop Samsung displays, they just fulfill orders.

Apple isn't a parts manufacturer so it would be stupid for them to open a manufacturing plant just to shut up iKnockoff trolls. The screens would also be 100% identical.

Neither @nadriel ; nor @coolfactor ; were arguing that Samsung is involved in iPhone development.  No one made that argument.  It's your strawman.  And you're also wrong about LG and Japan Display being able to do it if they were capable of fulfilling large orders.  First, it's a specious argument.  "They could do it if they didn't have to do it completely.  Derp.  They can't do the 2nd most important part: Volume. So they can't do it. Second, even if they could do the volume, there's no guarantee they could deliver on the most important part: Quality.  Anecdotal evidence says that the quality part is the biggest stumbling block for both LG and JDI... well the whole thing is the problem for JDI, but that's a discussion for another time.  

LOL.

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.... “made by” is not a synonym for ‘developed by/with’.
Of course there is Samsung technology within the display that Apple buys from Samsung, as there’d be LG or JD with their displays. They’re not exactly alike nor too different and I’m not expert in display panels. But if they can’t fulfill apples demanded specs it tells that their panel tech is behind Samsung, i.e. not as well developed.

I dont understand the saltiness, Apple didn’t develop the GPS chip, it buys chips and whatnot from Broadcom, mediatec, Texas instrument and intel and so on, how is the display different? No one spoke of iKnockoffs. Just speculated over what apple did with displays, since very likely panel is the same to note 10, but as I was earlier noted *display driver* likely is very different to Samsung’s solution which makes it even better than what Samsung had done with it.

Who even cares who makes and has developed individual parts since we can’t really twiddle with OS and the quality is maintained and Apple has the skills to take most out of them. In this case better screen package than Samsung has from their own panels. 

The next 5 years in evolution of computers, smartphones, tablets, hybrids, wearables and etc. will be interesting, phones are made more personal and utilitary all the time. There are drivers licences on the smartphones, student ID cards maybe passports at some point. We can do our banking on them and pay at some cashiers. We can save health data and get feedback on our health and whatnot. As smartphones they creep more deeper into our daily lives will they at one point become mandatory rather than a commodity that they are now.