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dewme said:appleinsideruser said:Er, wasn’t one of the benefits of Matter that hubs weren’t needed?Matter is an application layer protocol that runs on top of multiple communication layers, the most important are IP based ones being Thread and WiFi. If all of your Matter devices are WiFi based and your client is on WiFi and supports Matter, then yeah, you don’t need a separate “hub, router, gateway” type of device.However, if you want to access Matter devices that use Thread from a WiFi client you need a border router to route between WiFi and Thread. It’s still IP based end to end, but the WiFi and Thread link layers, physical layers, and IP address spaces are not the same.This “hub” device also supports Zigbee devices, which are not IP based. Going from WiFi to Zigbee requires a gateway because it’s bridging protocols.Matter devices can also communicate via Bluetooth.So this Matter “hub” is actually a border router and gateway that allows Matter compatible clients to communicate with wide range of Matter compatible devices as well as legacy Zigbee devices.
Thanks for that explanation of the issues @dewme — I hope all this effort does actually make things easy; but I've a nagging worry that this hidden complexity might leak out, creating confusion, obstacles and disappointment for users.
Fingers crossed this Matter/Thread lark works out well.
StrangeDays said:appleinsideruser said:Gotta say, it sounds to me like more phased obsolescence to encourage upgrading. Oh, we can’t do this magic without fast swap. Oh hang on, turns out we can…ߤ䦬t;div>My 32G 3TB Fusion, 2014 5k 27” iMac is rocking the latest MacOS even though Apple blocked support. Thank you OpenCore!Gotta say, it sounds like you aren’t a software developer.
Going back to the original Macintosh, advancements were made by contributors that sped things up and opened doors.
That's pretty much my point though — there's a long history of new features being withheld from Apple hardware that is well able to support it. Like in my example with Sidecar, AirPlay to Mac, Night Shift, and Universal Control.
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