mjtomlin said:

CloudTalkin said:

tommikele said:

80s_Apple_Guy said:

There seems to be increasing dissonance between Apple’s publicly claimed objectives and standards and what it actually does internally. Whether it’s this, or is concern for human rights except where that interferes with profits. It’s “concern for the environment” by not shipping chargers, but making devices that cannot be fixed. It all looks really bad at many levels. They should get back to making great products and services and jump off the preachy public attitudes. They set themselves up to be jumped on for every little nuance that doesn’t fit their party line. Like this. 

In the instances you refer to, your claims are not true.

"This" is an untrue claim. Apple shares no data externally and uses no third party tracking. The privacy features soon to be enacted have nothing to do with a developer sharing user data within their own apps. You need to not confuse them with Facebook who shares user data with almost anyone they think will help them make money.

I respect your right to your opinion, but like most, a big successful company presents a huge target to be criticized for anything and everything they do. Oops, you missed a spec of dirt so your entire company is to be considered dirty and unclean

You're incorrect about Apple sharing data externally. https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/en-ww/
Apple shares data externally with service providers, partners, and others.  Apple prohibits them from using that data for their own marketing, but the data is shared nonetheless.  Do they all honor that prohibition?  IDK.   Apple's privacy policy is pretty straightforward, and for the most part, I have no issues with it. 
My quote is about countering your claim that Apple shares no data externally.  They do.

I believe Apple doesn't use 3rd party tracking to serve advertising or track you across sites.  I also believe Apple does use 3rd party tracking to help fulfill services that may be used on the device.  Services like subscriptions for example.

That doesn't mean much of anything. Apple has to make this claim simply due to the fact that they might store user data on 3rd party servers, since Apple uses 3rd party cloud services such as AWS. Or that an email you send from Mail app has to send your email to an outside mail server. That disclaimer doesn't in fact mean they're handing over your personal data for other to dig through and use.

tommikele said:

80s_Apple_Guy said:

There seems to be increasing dissonance between Apple’s publicly claimed objectives and standards and what it actually does internally. Whether it’s this, or is concern for human rights except where that interferes with profits. It’s “concern for the environment” by not shipping chargers, but making devices that cannot be fixed. It all looks really bad at many levels. They should get back to making great products and services and jump off the preachy public attitudes. They set themselves up to be jumped on for every little nuance that doesn’t fit their party line. Like this. 

In the instances you refer to, your claims are not true.

"This" is an untrue claim. Apple shares no data externally and uses no third party tracking. The privacy features soon to be enacted have nothing to do with a developer sharing user data within their own apps. You need to not confuse them with Facebook who shares user data with almost anyone they think will help them make money.

I respect your right to your opinion, but like most, a big successful company presents a huge target to be criticized for anything and everything they do. Oops, you missed a spec of dirt so your entire company is to be considered dirty and unclean

Rayz2016 said:

CloudTalkin said:

cloudguy said:

VaporStain said:

Pay $4.99 for a month of “Entertainment” on Apple TV+ ? or buy a Beer?

Decisions decisions.   

Beer me.

This won't exactly broaden the base of Apple TV viewers. They just keep piling on with more of the same stuff. Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hulu and Disney+ all have content to attract a wide variety of viewers. Sure, Netflix has Patriot Act and Chelsea Handler but they also have Adam Sandler, Kevin James and action movies like Extraction. Disney+ has Hamilton but they also have the Avengers movies. Amazon Prime: they have the usual awards bait stuff but they also have Jack Ryan. So long as their programming is dominated by things that Apple's own HR department wants to watch to pick up ideas on what to include in their training videos, Apple is going to have to keep giving the service away for free.

Serious question.  Have you ever watched any ATV+ programming or actually looked at the lineup?  I ask because your rhetoric doesn't match the programming that's actually there.  The following sentence is not a criticism, it's an observation:  Apple's programing is just as demographically formulaic as all the rest of the streaming services.   Apple has programming to appeal to young kids, teens, young/middle/older adults.  Just like the others. They have comedies, dramas, thrillers, documentaries, musicals, action fare and more.  Just like the others.  The content goes from G rated all the way to R rated.  Just like the others.

What the others have that Apple doesn't is an extensive back catalog of content.  Consequently, what they do have is hyper-examined and judge against a mistaken narrative that their content is HR "sanitized" for correctness.  There's nothing to support the narrative.  It has never been that way.  From day one, there has been more adult oriented content on ATV+ than any other.  Still that way now. 

Very simple. They’re making TV for the kind of customers they want. The company hasn’t changed all that much since they  coined the phrase ‘Think Different’. 

StrangeDays said:

Seems this bill is really about adults, not children. Adults in Utah are the top paid porn consumers in the US:

https://www.deseret.com/2009/3/3/20304992/utah-no-1-in-online-porn-subscriptions-report-says

Utah No. 1 in online porn subscriptions, report says

sflocal said:

And when their phone is compromised in some way from side loading an app from some sketchy developer, who are they (and the media) going to blame?  Apple.

I lost track of how many dramatic articles/headlines I’ve read over the years about some gaping iPhone security hole, only to discover that deep in the main article, hidden from all but the most attentive eyes that it was only with jailbroken phones.

Do this and you’re in your own.  Blame Apple, shame on you.