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Apple Arcade is well positioned to take a slice of booming gaming market, analyst says
foregoneconclusion said:
Not sure why you would think it "fell into their lap" when the mobile gaming market didn't really exist prior to the iPhone. Development of the App Store was one contributing factor. Development of the A series chips and their dominant position in terms of graphics performance is another. Development of Metal (available on iOS before being available on Mac) is yet another.Beats said: This argument has valid points but it doesn’t address what we’re suggesting. Gaming on the App Store fell into Apple’s lap. It’s been 15 years of iPhone and apple has ONE game, Texas Hold ‘Em and no one even knows or cares about it. We’re saying Apple should take gaming seriously. Your argument is that 3rd parties are making Apple a ton of money. So what?This sounds like what someone new to gaming would say.
Mobile gaming predates Apple by decades. Gameboy made mobile gaming super popular and the DS was absolutely destroying the mobile gaming market. The difference is, Nintendo put gaming FIRST while Apple put gaming LAST.
Apple didn’t even care for 3rd party apps when they were inventing iPhone. When App Store opened, developers flooded it with games. The iPhone was a multi-utility device that naturally helped game developers get into millions of pockets. That’s why I say that.
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Apple Arcade is well positioned to take a slice of booming gaming market, analyst says
Stabitha_Christie said:
The ease at which you are dishonest is really remarkable.Beats said:Stabitha_Christie said:Beats said:Stabitha_Christie said:
You also think Apple makes most of it's money from gaming...... so not exactly the best informed source on the subject.Beats said:Quibi also had a “sticky” subscription model.
If the content sucks, no one cares.Change the headline to “APPLE is positioned to dominate the gaming market, but won’t”No. Apple makes most of its money from iPhone hardware. They make most of App Store money from gaming.
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Because I know more people with bad reading comprehension will continue to reply:
I used the word “dominate” because Apple still has platforms they have barely set foot in like Mac, consoles and 1st party IPs. Apple Arcade is a joke compared to Nintendo, Microsoft etc.
When I say “Apple”, I literally mean Apple. Not EA, not Rovio, not Zynga.
Game Center has been garbage for over a year and Apple has ONE game on the App Store that no one even knows about.
Literal quote from you:
"Apple has also shown games have made them the most money and have created Apple Arcade."
There is no reading comprehension issue here. You said games make Apple the most money. Hop back in the clown car and move on.Yeah in response to where most of their App Store revenue is from.
OBVIOUSLY.
Nice try.
Here is the comment you were responded to, it was mine, it has nothing to do with the App Store. Literally not even mentioned. It was about why Apple isn't going to make a competitor to the UE."It’s pretty obvious why the don’t. They feel resources are better spent on things.
This is going to blow your mind. Apple has way more information on what it’s customers do with its products and what features they want than you do.
Seriously, Apple has demonstrated it knows what’s it doing. Sorry your pet project doesn’t make the cut. I’m empathetic, I’d like Aperture to come back but it ain’t happening."Oh yeah you got mad that I said Apple makes most of App Store money from games. Which makes sense that Apple should take gaming seriously.
I don’t think any AppleInsider regulars think Apple makes most of their money from gaming. That’s stupid. Have some respect. We all know Apple makes most money from iPhone which is why people here often criticize Apple. Also why critics call Apple a “one trick pony”.Nice try taking it out of context though.foregoneconclusion said:
When Microsoft purchased Activision, the only game that generated more $$ from that catalog than Candy Crush was Call of Duty.Beats said: How much money is Texas Hold Em making huh?
This argument has valid points but it doesn’t address what we’re suggesting. Gaming on the App Store fell into Apple’s lap. It’s been 15 years of iPhone and apple has ONE game, Texas Hold ‘Em and no one even knows or cares about it. We’re saying Apple should take gaming seriously. Your argument is that 3rd parties are making Apple a ton of money. So what? Apple is completely missing the Mac gaming market and console market. If they can develop games and just take 20% market share of consoles and tie those games in to Mac this would create a snowball/halo effect that would trickle through every product category.
I don’t get this “it’s enough” argument. Android makes iOS gaming even less special because it runs the same games. Apple needs new, good, original content. That’s all we’re suggesting. We don’t care if Candy Crush or Zynga are killing it in sales.
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Apple Arcade is well positioned to take a slice of booming gaming market, analyst says
How much money is Texas Hold Em making huh?foregoneconclusion said:For the gazillionth time: mobile gaming revenue is now greater than PC/console gaming revenue COMBINED.
So if you're trying to argue that Apple can't be successful in gaming without AAA style games on Apple Arcade, you're arguing that the smaller market is more important than the larger market. You can still argue that you personally prefer AAA style games, but the business part of it can't really be argued. Mobile is now the dominant $$ market. -
Apple Arcade is well positioned to take a slice of booming gaming market, analyst says
Stabitha_Christie said:Beats said:Stabitha_Christie said:
You also think Apple makes most of it's money from gaming...... so not exactly the best informed source on the subject.Beats said:Quibi also had a “sticky” subscription model.
If the content sucks, no one cares.Change the headline to “APPLE is positioned to dominate the gaming market, but won’t”No. Apple makes most of its money from iPhone hardware. They make most of App Store money from gaming.
Edit:
Because I know more people with bad reading comprehension will continue to reply:
I used the word “dominate” because Apple still has platforms they have barely set foot in like Mac, consoles and 1st party IPs. Apple Arcade is a joke compared to Nintendo, Microsoft etc.
When I say “Apple”, I literally mean Apple. Not EA, not Rovio, not Zynga.
Game Center has been garbage for over a year and Apple has ONE game on the App Store that no one even knows about.
Literal quote from you:
"Apple has also shown games have made them the most money and have created Apple Arcade."
There is no reading comprehension issue here. You said games make Apple the most money. Hop back in the clown car and move on.Yeah in response to where most of their App Store revenue is from.
OBVIOUSLY.
Nice try.
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Apple Arcade is well positioned to take a slice of booming gaming market, analyst says
Stabitha_Christie said:
You also think Apple makes most of it's money from gaming...... so not exactly the best informed source on the subject.Beats said:Quibi also had a “sticky” subscription model.
If the content sucks, no one cares.Change the headline to “APPLE is positioned to dominate the gaming market, but won’t”No. Apple makes most of its money from iPhone hardware. They make most of App Store money from gaming.
Edit:
Because I know more people with bad reading comprehension will continue to reply:
I used the word “dominate” because Apple still has platforms they have barely set foot in like Mac, consoles and 1st party IPs. Apple Arcade is a joke compared to Nintendo, Microsoft etc.
When I say “Apple”, I literally mean Apple. Not EA, not Rovio, not Zynga.
Game Center has been garbage for over a year and Apple has ONE game on the App Store that no one even knows about.