Detnator

22july2013 said:

Detnator said:

Jonny K said:

Love the fact that Apple remove stuff from the package that’s very useful and make the omission a feature. Vapourware if ever it existed

Really?  How useful?  You really don't already have 17 each of those chargers and headphones?

And if you're one of the 6 people on earth who really don't, then what about the rest of us who do?  Why do I want to pay for those (plus the extra costs for shipping the larger boxes, and the cost to the environment, etc -- all real things not just BS marketing)... AGAIN?

That's a bit rude. Some people don't own 17. Most don't. And when I give an old iDevice away, I give away the USB charger, so I think I have only ONE charger in my house, and one headphone. Who on earth would give away an iDevice without giving away the charger/headphone too?

Not sure "rude" is fair.  But whatever we want to call it, the sarcasm and snark in the post I was replying to warranted it I think.

And yes, often we give the chargers away with the phone, but often we don't.  I've nearly always just traded my phone back into the carrier I was on a payment plan with and they don't want or give any credit for including the charger or headphones with the traded in phone. so I really do have at least 17 of those Apple USB charger bricks.  It's ridiculous.

Not including it in the box gives us the choice - and choice is better, surely?  Anyone who doesn't have one can still buy one separately (they're not exactly expensive), but those of us who do have them don't have to pay for them again. I'll bet a lot of them start showing up on ebay or whatever.  Those of us who have 17 can make a few extra bucks and those who need them can get them cheap if desired.  They last a VERY long time before failing.  As StrangeDays says above, it just seems to be win win win all round I think.

80s_Apple_Guy said:

Detnator said:

Jonny K said:

Love the fact that Apple remove stuff from the package that’s very useful and make the omission a feature. Vapourware if ever it existed

Really?  How useful?  You really don't already have 17 each of those chargers and headphones?

And if you're one of the 6 people on earth who really don't, then what about the rest of us who do?  Why do I want to pay for those (plus the extra costs for shipping the larger boxes, and the cost to the environment, etc -- all real things not just BS marketing)... AGAIN?

Agree. Except they didn’t give you a price drop. They just took away standard equipment. It is unneeded, however keeping the price the same makes it look like a money grab. 

Except... there's a LOT of new stuff in these phones, not the least of which is the 5G which is more expensive than the LTE in the previous ones.  Without these omissions, the prices would have been higher (not just for the physical items, but the shipping costs, etc. as well) and then there's the "OMG Tim's so greedy hiking prices AGAIN", etc. outrage.  So I think this is actually a pretty good move, all things considered.

kendog52404 said:

I'm kinda hoping that somebody, either Apple, or more likely an accessory maker, will make iPhone Cases for the previous, but still selling generations of the iPhone, such as the iPhone 11 series, that includes Mag Safe.  If there is, I hope it includes charging, albeit probably through the Lightning Port on the older iPhones.

I've used this brand on my iPhone XS Max for the last couple of years.  They have proven to be very high quality, reliable, durable, etc. and great customer service.  I haven't checked but I'll be very surprised if they don't have iPhone 11 series products as well.  They've also just announced some stuff that's compatible with iPhone 12 series MagSafe.  Pretty comprehensive range it seems.  I recommend them.

https://www.ipitaka.com

chemengin1 said:

Most underwhelming phone ever announced.

Seriously?  You're kidding, right?

Jonny K said:

Love the fact that Apple remove stuff from the package that’s very useful and make the omission a feature. Vapourware if ever it existed

Really?  How useful?  You really don't already have 17 each of those chargers and headphones?

And if you're one of the 6 people on earth who really don't, then what about the rest of us who do?  Why do I want to pay for those (plus the extra costs for shipping the larger boxes, and the cost to the environment, etc -- all real things not just BS marketing)... AGAIN?