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Beats said:

rain22 said:

“ but it suggests that new Apple Silicon Macs will not be struggling to keep up with the graphics on Intel Macs.”

That would be nice - but seems extremely dependent on programs being optimized. The anemic library of titles will probably shrink even further - at least until there is market saturation. 

Mac users will be stuck using dumbed down iOS software for a long time I feel. 

After all - This is the motivation isn’t it? Eventually have just 1 OS that can be modded to facilitate the device. 

A-Series is closer than you think. We will see A14 this year which will surpass PS4 Pro graphics. Eventually iPad games and Mac games will be next-gen quality. We could potentially see iPad/Mac pass PS5 quality during PS5's lifetime.

Yes, I know nerdcore gamers will compare this to $5,000 rigs just to sh** on Apple but the reality is, 99% of the population doesn't give a damn at this point. This isn't 1993 when 8-bit and 16-bit was a massive leap and at 7"(iPhone)-24"(iMac) screens there will be no need for 8k or something ridiculous.

I think a smart move would be for Apple to encourage developers to support A14 games. We need a handful of titles that run better than that Tomb Raider demo even at the cost of leaving iPhone 6s users behind.

I don't really know the first thing about serious PC gaming, other than that (a) through Apple's history so far, it's about as far from Apple's target market as there is, and (b) as you say, most people don't care...  However, thinking about how MS more or less created Halo to popularize the Xbox (if I recall correctly - someone feel free to tell me if I've got that wrong)...I just wonder...

Let's say Apple could get even just one (though 2-3 would be even better) serious game developer (or if they could do it themselves) to come out with a really really good AAA game (whatever that really means, but I just mean anything that typical "real" PC gamers would take seriously), built (or re-built) specifically for Apple's tech (Apple Silicon [AS], Metal, etc), without Apple having to build a specific gaming Mac...

And let's say, on something like a $3000, AS, 6K 32" iMac (so not a MBA, but it doesn't have to be a MP either), such a game(s) screamed, performance-wise by every metric.  Let's say it craps all over any PC that said gamers might work so hard to custom build for even vaguely similar dollars (simply because AS has just nailed it)...

Then maybe other developers might come on board.  And then I just wonder what that would do to the PC gaming market.  I mean, sure, Apple's got a thriving gaming market now, but it's a significantly different market to the traditional gaming PC world.  And as I understand it, Apple's never put serious gaming GPUs or really cooperated with the gaming-specific technologies (no desire to).

But if these new Macs scream with Apple's CPUs, GPUs, Metal, etc, without Apple having to doing anything significantly different specifically for AAA gamers, and if someone (Apple or someone else) takes it seriously and builds for it - anything that the PC gaming market would take seriously - then maybe "serious" PC gaming is going in a new direction in the future, leaving MS and Intel behind there also.

I just wonder.

fastasleep said:

gatorguy said:

ITGUYINSD said:

I think it would be more convenient to have a "Read more in the forums..." link at the TOP of the comments instead of (or in addition to) the one at the bottom.

For those articles that have lots of comments already, in order to reply to a particular one, it requires going all the way to the bottom just to get to the normal forums to "like" a post, etc.  Have the link at the TOP of the comments section, please.  

Otherwise, still getting used to the look and feel of the new site.

I don't know that I'd encourage visitors to "Read more in the forums" until some of us clean up a bit. A whole lot of threads go way off the tracks and proceed down a cliff, not reflecting well on fans of Apple who are generally a knowledgable and friendly bunch. The forums serve a valuable function, but casual visitors may come away with an entirely wrong impression of AppleInsider.  

If we're going to invite them to "Read more in the forums" several of us, and often the loudest voices, need to learn to be more tolerant as well as follow forum rules. 
Just me 2 cents.

You ever go hang out on MacRumors or similar? AI is a bastion of calm in comparison.

Indeed... I'm looking to give up on MR and have just signed up here instead, for that very reason.  MR is an ever increasing nightmare.  Half the articles are titled for clickbait, as well as all but inciting hate and negativity.  So far my experience here has been much better. Hoping that continues and is typical not just a lucky start or something.