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algr said:

> Hacks the A13 chip in the monitor.
> Installs MacOS.

LOL

dewme said:

The height adjustable mount is very impressive. I wish it was the only non-VESA option for the same base price. But for the money I'd just go for the VESA mount and invest in a really good monitor arm for the number of monitors I need. 

Yeah.  The engineering in the $999 XDR one is pretty amazing. I'm sure this is similar (without the magnets, rotation, extra strength for the heavier monitor, and as much need to recover R&D cost).

I'm doing pretty much the same as you, although for different reasons.  If I only wanted it on my desk I'd just get the height adjustable mount, but I need it to move around in a few directions etc. in my home office, so I have a really long industrial arm attached to a pole mount, handling my LG 5K.  This will be a simple swap out.

cgWerks said:

Can someone explain the pricing of this display to me? Is it that much better than the screen that came in the $1800 iMac? I was hoping it would be closer to $1k. While I realize the options for that exact kind of display (resolution, size, specs) limits you to one 3rd party (ie. LG UltraFine), do most of us really need those specs? I think I'd be just fine with something like a BenQ 4k, etc. (or almost a half-dozen of them!) What am I missing?

For most people 4K, 350nits, clunky build quality, and woeful customer support is enough.  That's what you get for $500-$1000.  Some of us want more than that. When the onIy 5K monitor around that's remotely Mac compatible was the LG I tried that, had multiple hardware issues with it, and dealing with LG's support probably took years off my life.  I tried 4K as an alternative, but for me at least, it just doesn't cut it.  Some people say they can't tell the difference between 150 and 220dpi, or 350 and 500 nits.  I don't get it. It's night and day for me. The extra pixels (it's almost twice as many) and increased brightness of the LG 5K make a significant difference to my productivity (when it's not going through LG's warranty repair processes).

Now, that covers differences between the many 4K options and the LG 5K.  Then there's the LG 5K vs this new Apple Studio Display (ASD)...

waveparticle said:

Buy the LG UltraFine 5K 27" monitor for $1299. The two are almost the same. 

Not quite (actually not even close).  There are some very significant differences, such that I'm surprised there's only $300 difference.

LG 5K:

• 500 nits
• USB3 5GBps
• 14lb
• 1080p camera (~2MP)
• Crappy speakers
• Crappy mic
• Terrible build quality with persistent hardware issues
• Woeful LG customer support
• $1300

Apple Studio 5K: 

• 600 nits + True Tone
• USB3 10Gbps
• 12lb
• 12MP camera (6x the pixels, + Center Stage)
• High quality 3 mic array, directional beam forming (if these are anything like the MBP mics then they're amazing)
• Superior speakers (+ spatial audio)
• Excellent build quality (presumably, if it's typical Apple).
• Best in class Apple customer support
• built in A13 CPU
• $1600

Bottom line, other than the 5K resolution part, nothing is the same.  (More here)

lordjohnwhorfin said:

Not that much less than the Apple monitor then. And if you consider the rear ports, Center Stage camera, Spatial compatible speakers, the classy look and the high end aluminum construction instead of cheap plastic, the LG doesn’t seem like the better deal really.

Far from it.  And it seems many others agree. I ordered two of these ASD's within seconds of the store coming back online this morning, and enough people still got in before me that mine aren't coming until the end of the month.  They're either very short on supply or a lot of people want them.

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sflocal said:

indieshack said:

Only with Apple could we see a banner headline “…Costs just $7999”

Okay Einstein.  Price an Intel-equivalent and get back to us.

This is the problem with trolls like you.  You do zero research on the competition yet pretend you know what you're talking about.

It's a joke, tight pants.

Call it what you want but comments like indie's aren't worth spit.

As for the fully loaded Studio for $7999, that's actually an amazing price for what you're getting. Sflocal is correct, try and build a desktop using Intel, AMD or ARM and you'll have to spend several times this amount. Try and build one that fits into 219 cubic inches and you'll never do it. The cooling system would take twice that amount of space and it still wouldn't be able to cool an over-clocked CPU. It also wouldn't be able to process anything at the speed of the M1 Ultra. Professionals don't have to wait for a Mac Pro replacement, it's already here. Just add external storage arrays (a nice NVMe RAID over Thunderbolt 3) and a 10Gb network switch with access to your servers and you won't have a second to nap because almost everything is happening real time.

It's still very expensive for a lot of people.

It's not intended for most people. Not even remotely.

melgross said:

Well, I was hoping to be able to test this myself soon, but apparently, even though I ordered a couple of minutes after the store went live, I’ll be waiting sometime into April for the monitor and until late April and possibly early May for the computer.

i’m using the 16” Macbook Pro with 32 graphics cores and 64GB RAM now, so I’m really interested to find out how close to a doubling in performances I’ll see with this. Double the rendering engines as well. That should prove interesting.

I'm a bit disappointed in the monitor though. I was hoping for a model that was somewhat more expensive, with miniLED, and possibly even 6K, as I’m hoping the new higher end monitor expected to come out will also use MiniLED, an advance over what it has now, and possibly go to 8K, though now I’m reading something about 7k, which is an odd resolution. But I bought this new one anyway. From what I’m reading, it should be somewhat better than the present iMac versions.

Indeed.  I sat refreshing the store page every few seconds starting before the event ended.  About five minutes later it appeared and I immediately ordered two of the displays, checking out with Apple Pay within a few seconds.  Current delivery timing is March 24-31.  These things are either in very short supply, or everyone wants them.