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maestro64 said:

Repeat after me: there isn’t a labor shortage, there’s a pay shortage. Companies that pay decent wages have lines of candidates. Like these pizzerias:

https://www.businessinsider.com/pizza-chain-ceo-says-theres-no-labor-shortage-if-you-pay-well-2021-7

Actually, repeat after me, it is the lack of people wanting to work at a job which requires you to work. That article is just one guy's opinion of what he is seeing.

I work in supply chain and travel all over meeting with companies who make things for my company. We mostly deal with small and medium size business these are company who do $10M to  $50M of business a year. I have been hearing this for years even pre-pandemic they can not find people to work and most have starting wages of $15 some lower at $12 depending on the job, non of them pay minimum wage and have not paid that for a very long time. The pandemic made it worse for these companies because two people living together collecting benefits today make more than the medium household incoming. The government found a way to transfer wealth. They taxing the taxes they collect from the people who pay taxes and give it to those who now decided not to work.

Keep in mind minimum wage is not design to allow people to have a family and property. This wage is design for temporary employment like kids who are still in their parents home. You have to ask yourself if you have an older person looking or taking minimum wages job what is their problem since their are plenty of jobs which pay above minimum wage. Even when I was in high school I was always able to find jobs which paid well above minimum wage, but those jobs required you to work hard not just standing around stocking a shelf in a grocery store or flipping burgers.

This problem is more complicated than what people are getting paid, and a lot of it has to do how the government is incentivizing people to work or not work.

buttesilver said:

lkrupp said:

scudsam said:

First let’s see if Americans need a job.  If they come here legally, no problem.  

Americans don’t need jobs. The Biden administration is paying for their every need. Mark my words, the unemployment benefits enacted during the pandemic will be made permanent. The freeze on evictions will be made permanent. Anyone who chooses not to work will be handsomely supported by the government. No American will ever have to work again if they don’t want to so let the dreamers stay. Somebody has to do the work after all. 

You're already wrong on the evictions - Biden just said it's over Saturday...
OTOH, I don't at all doubt that he/they would love to just keep people on the public dime as long as they can.  I just finished a 2200 mile road-trip, much of it through Montana/Idaho/Utah and there were a lot of places with scaled back hours due to not being able to get enough employees on board.  Pay folks more than min-wage or close for long enough, and streaming in Mom's basement is a really appealing option ain't it?  Merca, 2021...

chadbag said:

Another reason you couldn't pay me to live in California.   Those other states dont have much draw either.