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Compared: Apple Studio Display vs. 2011 Thunderbolt Display
Apple list the USB-C ports on the Studio Display for up to 10Gb/s *, which should be enough bandwidth for a 4k display at 60Hz. Whether Apple allow passthrough of a display signal to another monitor I don't know. I suspect not, and that each monitor would need to connect to a separate port, but stranger things have happened, maybe there's a pleasant surprise.No, obviously he isn't looking to power a display from USB-C or Thunderbolt.So much conversation reacting to my post — thanks, everyone! To be clear: Power is not a factor. I'm curious as to whether a non-Retina-quality desktop monitor (with its own power source) could be daisy-chained to a USB-C port on the new Apple Studio Display, itself connected via Thunderbolt to a 2021 14-inch MacBook Pro. Why do I ask? So that I could have the convenience of having to connect only one cable to the MacBook Pro while having two external monitors. This would obviously work if I connect two cables to the MacBook Pro or use some kind of a dock/hub, but I want to see if the convenient one-cable option is feasible.
That is not possible. Apple specifically stated that an additional display must be connected directly to the Mac. The USB-C ports are for peripherals, storage, or networking. Your Dell display would plug into the Mac Studio's HDMI port.I suspect this might be correct — but where did Apple specifically state that an additional external display must be directly connected to the Mac? The Apple Studio Display's product page does say: "Three USB-C ports let you connect, power, and charge devices — from networking and external drives to your keyboard, mouse, or iPhone. The Thunderbolt port connects Studio Display to your Mac with a single cable. That same port can charge compatible Mac notebooks — and even fast‑charge a 14‑inch MacBook Pro." Although it does not explicitly say that daisy-chaining a non-Retina-quality desktop monitor is possible, it doesn't exclude the possibility. The tech specs page says "Three downstream USB-C ports (up to 10Gb/s) for connecting peripherals, storage, and networking" — and an external monitor is certainly a peripheral, and I would guess a non-Retina-quality monitor wouldn't need more than the available 10GB/s of bandwidth.
I do agree that if it were possible to daisy-chain another Apple Studio Display, Apple would market that fact.
At any rate, I will test this when my new Apple Studio Display arrives (it's due some time in the next week). I will report back here (in case anyone's still reading by then) whether or not it's possible to daisy-chain a non-Retina-quality desktop monitor (with its own power source).
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Compared: Apple Studio Display vs. 2011 Thunderbolt Display
Andrew, you wrote: "Because of Thunderbolt data limitations, it isn't possible to daisy chain two 5K studio displays." Do you know if it's possible to daisy-chain a lower-resolution third-party monitor to a USB-C port on the new Apple Studio Display?
I have a 27-inch Dell QHD resolution monitor, which is 2560x1440 pixels. That's the same resolution as the original Thunderbolt Display and Apple's 27-inch iMacs from the 2009 to 2013 models. (The 2014 edition of the 27-inch iMac was the first Retina 5K model at 5120x2880 pixels.)
I have an Apple Studio Display on order. I'm hoping that I'll need only connect one cable (from the Studio Display's one Thunderbolt port) to my MacBook Pro (14-inch, 2021) and that the one cable will provide the MacBook both with power and with connections to two monitors — the Studio Display and a 27-inch Dell monitor with USB-C and QHD resolution. In other words, the chain would be: 14-inch MacBook Pro <—> Thunderbolt cable <—> Apple Studio Display <—> USB-C cable <—> Dell U2721DE monitor, if that works.
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Waterfield unveils new carryable 'Shield Case' for Apple's Mac Studio
This carrying case for the Mac Studio proves that all that is old eventually becomes new again. I had a carrying case for my Macintosh 128K and then Macintosh Plus from 1984 until about 1988, and I did regularly carry it around. Apple even advertised Macintosh's transportable nature back in those days — it was a feature.
When the Macintosh Portable came out in 1989, I sure wanted one! But at 16 pounds and over $7,000 (equivalent to over $15,000 in today's money), it was out of reach. In the early 1990s after the PowerBook 100 series came out, used versions of the Macintosh Portable were out there for only about $1500 (less costly than the new PowerBooks then) and I was seriously tempted … but I was later glad not to have bought one.
There will certainly be people who will find value in this Mac Studio carrying case. -
'Apple Car' team dissolved & 2025 launch may be in doubt says Ming-Chi Kuo
I think it would be great for Apple to partner with one or more existing car companies to design the driver-facing software interfaces and possibly even their dashboard's physical controls. But if Apple ever actually builds and markets an entire car (or line of cars), they need to give their car business its own name. I don't want to see the Apple logo on the front & back of cars. When those cars crash, or are used in bank robberies or televised high-speed pursuits, or eventually turn into 20-year-old rust-bucket pizza delivery vehicles, their appearance would tarnish Apple's image. -
How the new Mac Studio fills a crucial gap in Apple's desktop lineup
Yes. At this writing, the M1-based Mac mini models have starting prices of $699 and $899. Ignoring the iMac for the moment (since it currently has only an M1 processor), customers who want a desktop Mac with at least an M1 Pro processor have to jump all the way up to the Mac Studio, with its models having $1999 (M1 Max) and $3999 (M1 Ultra) starting prices. We need an M1 Pro desktop model.entropys said:… there is still a bit of space at the bottom edge, right where a Mac mini with an M1 Pro in it should be.
I would very much like to see M1 Pro-based Mac mini models with starting prices of, say, $1299 and $1499 (or $1399 and $1599 — whatever Apple needs to do to make its traditionally high margins without gouging us too much). That gap from consumer-grade Mac mini to the pro-grade Mac Studio is a canyon that needs filling.
