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Yeah, I can see jelly scroll on my Mini. Unusable? Hardly. Illness inducing? Nope. It's only apparent in limited situations. I'm curious where this lawsuit was when it was apparent than many Samsung Galaxy Tabs also have jelly scroll. On my Tab S6, it's far more apparent and far more severe. Still doesn't affect use. This is where we are at with display technology. And that has nothing to do with Apple. 

So, I have lots of work experience with this stuff. They are not required to turn over medical records. Apple doesn't need their records or diagnosis unless the employee chooses to share it. What employees DO need to do is have their doctor fill out paperwork outlining what accommodations are needed based on the individual job description which HR would provide for this purpose. The employer DOESN'T need to agree to them for every job. For example, if someone is hired specifically to drive a fork-lift and their accommodations prevent them from reasonably being able to do the duties of the job (i.e. they cannot operate machinery for more than 15 minutes at a time or something), the employer can say no, sorry, you can no longer do the job you were hired for. At that point the employer will engage in a process to figure out another suitable position for the employee so that the accommodations can be followed. Pay may or may not be the same.  If none, then the employee is out of luck and often at that point should be considering the type of work they are trying to do. Perhaps disability or another type of job is better with the change in abilities.

 I went through this myself and chose to start my own business instead of trying to make my employer work around my ever-increasing needs. I am ALL for employee rights...but nobody is entitled to keep a job they can no longer reasonably do without undue hardship on the company they are working for and its needs. For clarity I'm focusing most on the employee with ADA accommodations that they think will be later denied). Most employers will allow accommodations that are temporary in nature (during an accident recovery for example). If the accommodation is permanent, they're going to have to prove it as well as prove they can still complete the job they were hired for. Working from home is a very tricky one because there is so much liability. For example, if you're working using your dining room chair and your back becomes hurt, is it worker's comp? Is it your own personal injury? Most companies want to avoid this kind of stuff if possible because what happens is so many people try to take advantage. At the same time, I expect Apple to be open-minded and at the forefront of a healthier work/life balance for employees. If the employees can reasonably work from home and complete their jobs, Apple could easily work with their legal department to facilitate the process. It really all comes down to what jobs these people are doing and if Apple has reasonably tried to accommodate needs.

melgross said:

flydog said:

melgross said:

What I’ve wanted is for Apple to put the FaceTime sensors and front cameras on a long side. It’s ridiculous that they have it in the portrait position. Who really uses an iPad that way most of the time? This is a horizontal device. FaceTime isn’t as useful because on the side, it doesn’t always work, because you hold it by the sides.

Everybody who is not watching a video.  It's not a "horizontal" device.  It was designed to be used primarily in portrait mode since that is optimum for consuming most content.  

A few of you guys are out of sync. Maybe a small handful out if every hundred use it vertically. I’ve been to conferences where hundreds of people are using ipads, and everyone is horizontal. Maybe you guys are using. It for some odd games, but the pro are serious tools, and we don’t buy them to just watch video.

I'm a medical professional (and an artist on the side) who also goes to lots of conferences and I can count on one hand the people out of hundreds who I've seen using it horizontally. Also out and about in the Bay Area / San Francisco and in Portland, Oregon (live in both cities), I pretty much exclusively see iPads being used in portrait mode. I do serious work using serious tools as well, and using it in Portrait has no bearing on how serious a tool it is or how serious one's work is. What a ridiculous comment to make. It also has nothing to do with "games". I don't even play games on either of them. They are are integral part of my medical work and my research as well as my art and photography. As I mentioned in another comment, when I'm creating art, I'll use whatever orientation I need at the time....I agree with you that of course the Smart Cover is designed for horizontal use as well as the keyboard covers...by necessity. Has no bearing on intended use orientation and provides no meaningful information as to Apple's intentions either other than nobody is going to want a narrow keyboard. Using the Smart Cover vertically is a pain? How so? It folds back flat. Zero issues. And if you want to prop up the iPad with the SmartCover, then yes, use it horizontally. Another design choice out of necessity. The iPad isn't that lightweight and a case design that could prop it up in portrait would need to have quite some design to prevent the iPad from falling back. The iPad is intended to be used however you want in the end, and it's equally intended to be used in portrait as it is landscape. You're literally creating an issue that isn't there. And your insistence that using it in portrait is somehow wrong and unintended by the maker is also ridiculous. How hard is it to not cover up the camera in landscape? I'll tell you. Not hard at all. 

macuserosu said:

Eric_WVGG said:

canukstorm said:

The 12.9" iPad Pro is very uncomfortable to hold in portrait orientation for long periods of time.  Any device above 10.9" screen size is far better used in landscape.

I'd love to see some analytics on this. I personally think you're dead wrong. Particularly w/r/t web browsing.

Sorry but that is your opinion and not how everyone uses the device.  All of my iPads live in landscape  mode.  I only use portrait mode for poorly designed apps that force me to do portrait mode.  

For evidence of your belief is wrong, why are the Apple designed accessories designed for landscape mode? The Smart Cover, the Magic Keyboard, and the Smart Keyboard are all designed for only landscape mode.

Not OP, but I'd guess for one, that the accessories, which are either to prop up the iPad for movie / media consumption or for text input, such as a keyboard, would not be very useful in portrait mode, as it would make the keyboards excessively small to type on and uncomfortable. That was design by necessity, and doesn't show anything about intended use. Plus people are used to laptops and this was at least at some point painted as a laptop alternative.

But that argument doesn't really address the original point of this further up about this being a primarily horizontal device needing a camera in landscape. The person posting had said that the camera should be in the landscape orientation so as not to cover it when holding it in landscape. All of Apple's accessories are not designed to be held while in landscape. They are designed to be set on a surface to keep the iPad in landscape while typing and viewing content that is better seen in landscape. Which means the camera would not be covered in those uses. 

And again, since the iPad can be used in any orientation, the camera risks being covered no matter what unless there were two. I don't think it's that hard to hold the iPad in landscape and avoid covering the camera.

But yes, I do agree with you that everyone uses their iPads differently. Mine are almost always in Portrait as that's my preference for a lot of what I do. I use a stand or keyboard accessory when in landscape usually. And when I'm drawing and sketching I really use it in all orientations as I'm turning it constantly. I'm hoping to buy one of those stands that holds iitn like the old iMac G4 but adding screen rotation to the mix.

melgross said:

What I’ve wanted is for Apple to put the FaceTime sensors and front cameras on a long side. It’s ridiculous that they have it in the portrait position. Who really uses an iPad that way most of the time? This is a horizontal device. FaceTime isn’t as useful because on the side, it doesn’t always work, because you hold it by the sides.

Count me in as one who mainly uses both my 12.9 and 11inch in portrait the majority of the time when handheld. And when I do hold it in landscape position, I hold it near the bottom right and left...nowhere near obscuring the camera...since this device is meant to be used in either orientation, you're always going to have someone upset it seems..unless there's a camera in both spots. 

Actually, when I use the iPads in landscape, I'm rarely holding them. They're either attached to their keyboard or on a stand. This is the way I see most people using it out and about when in landscape and at my workplace and in my house. I'm sure there are plenty who use it the way you do as well.