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Marvin said:entropys said:Definitely a prosumer gap at the moment. No 27 inch iMac, and a base studio and studio display costs a lot more!
I would settle for an Mx Pro Mac mini but it should be a lot less than a 5K iMac.
M1 Mini 8GB/256GB = $699, Studio Display = $1599 = $2298.
If people can live with 3rd party displays, it's cheap enough with the Mac Studio.
https://www.amazon.com/LG-34WN650-W-34-Inch-UltraWide-DisplayHDR/dp/B087JB656Q ($349) + $1999 Studio = $2348.
Given that Apple prices the 27" at $1599, they can only put M1 inside to come close to the 27" iMac pricing so they either make an M1 27" around $1999 or people buy a $699 mini + $1599 display. Those options aren't that far apart. M1 Pro mini would be $300 extra ($2598 with Studio Display) and would be like the $2299 27" iMac with the 5500XT.
john-useless said:Andrew, you wrote: "Because of Thunderbolt data limitations, it isn't possible to daisy chain two 5K studio displays." Do you know if it's possible to daisy-chain a lower-resolution third-party monitor to a USB-C port on the new Apple Studio Display?
I have a 27-inch Dell QHD resolution monitor, which is 2560x1440 pixels. That's the same resolution as the original Thunderbolt Display and Apple's 27-inch iMacs from the 2009 to 2013 models. (The 2014 edition of the 27-inch iMac was the first Retina 5K model at 5120x2880 pixels.)
I have an Apple Studio Display on order. I'm hoping that I'll need only connect one cable (from the Studio Display's one Thunderbolt port) to my MacBook Pro (14-inch, 2021) and that the one cable will provide the MacBook both with power and with connections to two monitors — the Studio Display and a 27-inch Dell monitor with USB-C and QHD resolution. In other words, the chain would be: 14-inch MacBook Pro <—> Thunderbolt cable <—> Apple Studio Display <—> USB-C cable <—> Dell U2721DE monitor, if that works.
Thanks for any info!
y2an said:So what did the Thunderbolt Display cost, back in the day?
mac_dog said:williamh said:These self-congratulatory things Apple does occasionally should be a bit embarrassing. The Mac Studio looks like a big Mac Mini and it’s the very computer people have requested for years. Apple folks were not psychic when they determined the need and didn’t come up with a revolutionary new design. Good on you for making the Studio Display speakers good. Why is the camera garbage?
I seem to recall Ive or somebody gushing over the shape of the Apple Pencil or something like that. It’s some kind of joke.
I saw the new Studio Display at the Apple Store. It is definitely not worth the $1,599 price tag. The fact that the display has fans in it, makes you wonder how hot is it going to be? The Apple Thunderbolt Display was a literal space heater that could heat a room. I had two of them that I got used for $350 total. One started to fail after 4 years of use with the LED burn marks appearing, and I was glad to sell them for cheap to get rid of them. They literally heated my room and in the summer, it was brutal. I replaced them with two Samsung 28" 4K monitors that have much better image quality, and they were only $269 each! I think the general consumer doesn't care about 4K or 5K and most will opt for a decent 4K monitor for much less. I don't need a webcam or speakers in my display. I have the Klipsch 2.1 Media Speakers that blow away anything from Apple. If I need a webcam, I have one in my MacBook Pro, 2020 iMac 27", or iPhone or iPad. I don't need Center Stage either. Most say they get a sick feeling watching the panning. It is like they added a bunch of features that most people don't really care about, and the one feature people would use, they left out - Ethernet!
Remember when everyone was spreading rumors that the new iMac would be 32"? Guess what? Apple gave you the same 27" display from the iMac, for the price of the iMac, without the iMac. Remember when Schiller said you get this amazing 5K display, and it comes with a computer? Now it is the other way around. I think most people that buy the Mac Studio will opt for a third party display, and maybe go larger with a 32" 4K display. Most will be able to get two excellent 4K displays for less than one Apple Studio Display. If Apple priced it at $999, with the height adjustable stand, they would have had a hit. Since Apple is so health conscious, the height adjustable stand should be the included stand. The fixed tilt stand is ridiculous. It is funny when people stack books under their iMac to raise it up. Watch MKHBD's review of the display on YouTube. He nails it with his review.