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  • Is Apple's App Store a monopoly or a solution?

    I understand that as an Apple fan you view the tech world through that lens. However, in doing so you misalign facts and brand lies as truth.

    You say that Android was an illegal ripoff of Java, well Sun (before it was bought by Oracle) gave permission to Google to use it, Google also made modifications which separated itself enough that even the Supreme court didn't find them guilty. Yet in ignorance or maybe malice you make these claims to solidify your lies and fool the uninformed.

    You say Android users are cheap pirates that want anarchy, maybe you have forgotten the jailbreak era of the iPhones.

    You say everyone copies from Apple, but wasn't it Apple who copied the GUI from Xerox and what about the plethora of functions that Apple copied from Android, widgets, AOD etc. Are you oblivious to them or ignorant? or will you make up excuses to try to justify them while you blast others.

    You say others make 'me too' products, what about Apple Maps, Apple music, Apple TV+ are they also 'me too' products, just because they weren't first to a market. Also, going by that logic isn't the Apple Vision Pro a 'me too' product, a rip-off of Meta but with higher specs and 7 times the price.

    You say that other systems are full of malware, well that is exaggerated and even what percentage exists is the tradeoff for having an open system which provides freedom. But what benefit did iOS provide with its walled garden? Was it not affected by Pegasus, has it not been affected by zero day exploits? The only thing it did was make Apple's wallet heavier by restricting third party services and promoting their own alternatives.

    You say others destroy your privacy, yet Apple gives your Siri data to contractors for processing, and has been sued on multiple occasions for not upholding their promises regarding privacy. They have restricted other ad networks only to build their own and profit from it.

    You seem to portray the app store as infallible yet one can read articles all the time of scam apps fooling people and taking their money. Has Apple ever come forward and refunded these people because they use Apple and their closed app store, No they couldn't care less.

    Developers are so fed up of Apple that they don't even want to make apps for the Vision Pro and yet you seem to be in the delusion that it is a benefit to society and to everyone.

    Apple went out of its way to cripple other web engines on iOS to stop PWAs from becoming a viable replacement to the App store and yet you say they are not anticompetitive.

    Apple products sell so well because more than the technology, Apple has marketed itself as a premium product for rich people. That is why we have gold Apple watches and $19 handkerchiefs. There have been instances where people have sold their kidneys for an iPhone, have no food yet bought an iPhone on finance. Do you think that they did it because they thought it was a better phone? Don't kid yourself.

    You believe Apple is being punished, No, the government has made laws equal to all companies including Microsoft and Google, yet Apple is the biggest whiner and seems to believe that it should get special treatment. Tough luck.

    Maybe not insult other brands while making a fanboy esque article and even if you do at least state facts.
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  • 'Strong action' is coming if the EU doesn't like Apple's App Store concessions

    jimh2 said:
    gatorguy said:
    rax_mark said:
    The EU, unlike the US, believes in the spirit of the law, instead of the word of the law, Apple should have realised that.

    Apple cannot win this one by using legal loopholes. I suspect if this continues we may see one of two possibilities:-

    I) Apple exits the EU.
    II) The EU bans Apple within its borders.

    I suspect Apple doesn't want to give up the European market to Samsung and Google, so the first one is highly dependent on whether Apple can still get a profit with side loading existing.
    Of course they can make a profit, a major profit in fact. Few people will sideload, and Google has managed quite a few billion in profit from the Play Store despite several 3rd party app stores on the Android platform. This is all about Apple muscle-flexing and not any significant danger to profits nor security IMO
    Consumers are the only ones who stand to lose anything and no one will give up an Apple phone for an Android. EU citizens will not let this happen quietly and of course rendering millions of phones to be restricted to installed apps is the infinitely worse than having to throw away tens of millions of charging cables.

    You overestimate the value Apple phones have to people outside the US. Most EU citizens see them as status symbols and there is public disdain (though often nothing more than jokes) for such people who try to flaunt wealth. It's a different culture to the US.

    Also, people will simply switch to other top end manufacturers or most likely foldables which are also seen as premium devices due to their price tag.

    I can assure you the number of people who will complain that their government banned a manufacturer that didn't comply with local regulations is going to be limited to forums and Reddit.

    That's the same reason Apple is so careful with China, a state ban only affects the private company, as other competitors will jump in to fill the void. That's also the reason why Apple offers more discounts on their phones in China after the resurgence of Huawei.
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  • 'Strong action' is coming if the EU doesn't like Apple's App Store concessions

    red oak said:
    rax_mark said:
    red oak said:

    Spoken like a true socialist

    I believe in a healthy mixture of Capitalism and Socialism. Following only one to the letter is stupid and is detached from reality.

    red oak said:

    Apple opened up the browser, NFC, and allows game streaming apps.  And, allows distributions of apps outside of the App Store

    All of which they were compelled to do due to regulation, not out of a spirit for fair competition. The new app store policies that allow distribution of apps outside the iOS app store were made in such a way to make the process almost impossible to do monetarily while still being a gatekeeper to that process.

    red oak said:

    do you think Apple should get zero compensation for that?

    Isn't over 50% margin on the sale of iPhones compensation? Apple makes so much money on iphones alone that those profits should be able to fund all of their other hardware projects and software departments and even R&D. Airpods, Macs and watches don't hold a candle to the profit they make on iPhones. They could give free Airpods with iPhones and still make profit (this data is publicly available).

    Yet, Apple double dips (yearly developer program charges), triple dips (monthly 30% cut from developers), and is now planning to quad dip (core technology charges). At one point, intervention was inevitable, I only thought it would be developers protesting instead of government regulation. However, even with regulation they will make record profits on hardware sales. I don't think they are in a position to sympathize with.
    Did you join an hour ago here so you can argue for Spotify?  

    Apple did everything the DMA required.  Every single thing.  Let it go back to the courts, then to appeal, and then finally to the Court of Justice.    Maybe we'll have some clarification in 2027.  Until then,  Apple's business terms apply 


    Yes, I did create this account today as I don't have access to my previous one.

    However, that should be inconsequential to the statements I made and their validity.

    We will know whether the new policies follow the DMA in March.
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  • 'Strong action' is coming if the EU doesn't like Apple's App Store concessions

    red oak said:

    Spoken like a true socialist

    I believe in a healthy mixture of Capitalism and Socialism. Following only one to the letter is stupid and is detached from reality.

    red oak said:

    Apple opened up the browser, NFC, and allows game streaming apps.  And, allows distributions of apps outside of the App Store

    All of which they were compelled to do due to regulation, not out of a spirit for fair competition. The new app store policies that allow distribution of apps outside the iOS app store were made in such a way to make the process almost impossible to do monetarily while still being a gatekeeper to that process.

    red oak said:

    do you think Apple should get zero compensation for that?

    Isn't over 50% margin on the sale of iPhones compensation? Apple makes so much money on iphones alone that those profits should be able to fund all of their other hardware projects and software departments and even R&D. Airpods, Macs and watches don't hold a candle to the profit they make on iPhones. They could give free Airpods with iPhones and still make profit (this data is publicly available).

    Yet, Apple double dips (yearly developer program charges), triple dips (monthly 30% cut from developers), and is now planning to quad dip (core technology charges). At one point, intervention was inevitable, I only thought it would be developers protesting instead of government regulation. However, even with regulation they will make record profits on hardware sales. I don't think they are in a position to sympathize with.
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