SmittyW

Wesley Hilliard said:

canukstorm said:

DAalseth said:

I wonder if Trump knows it won’t change. He made all sorts of really stupid promises to his supporters. These Executive Orders let him say he followed through, but like his promise in 2016 to ‘bring back coal’ none of them stand a chance in hell of happening. He knows that but he’s just going through the motions. It’s also good misdirection so people talk about this, while he and his crew are doing real damage behind the scenes. 

As a non-US citizen, how do Executive Orders work?  Are they not binding?  For example, the issue of birthright citizenship is a hot button topic which from my understanding is protected by the 14th Amendment.  Can an executive order just overturn that even though it's in the Constitution?

Nope. Many of Trump's executive orders were actually illegal. An executive order is kind of like a promissory note that conveys the intentions of the administration. They are binding for federal employees and offices, but can't go beyond that and can't violate the constitution. The orders can later be considered by Congress and the Supreme Court if they need further legislation to make them more official, or if they need to be blocked.

For example, his orders about birthright citizenship aren't allowed, period. He can't actually provide amnesty to ByteDance from a law that was passed. And he can't withdraw from the WHO like that. He's being sued already and there are a lot of people on both sides of the isle that are unhappy with the many of the executive orders and what they do. Congress will likely overturn several. We'll see.

entropys said:

I find it all very entertaining.  

One lot of yanks are currently overloaded with euphoria at the thought of a wrecking ball tearing the establishment down, the other lot are crying in their cups.

and why not call it the Gulf of America? It isn’t as though the left aren’t busy changing place names all the time.

AppleZulu said:

SmittyW said:

AppleZulu said:

SmittyW said:

AppleZulu said:

SmittyW said:

AppleZulu said:

hodar said:

Who said that LGBTQ or minorities cannot be qualified?  How about hiring the brightest, the best and most talented without regard to their skin color, their plumbing or things that have absolutely nothing to do with things unrelated to the job?  Hire by merit, that's how Apple got out of the garage.

Funny how “merit” wasn’t important when systematically refusing to hire certain genders and ethnicities was de rigeur. There was no meritocracy then. Now, as soon as anyone talks about systematically extending opportunities to the same people who were previously systematically excluded, we hear how there must be a meritocracy. There’s not much merit in that. 

Agreed. The way to fight hate, is with more hate!

DEI is literally the opposite of hate. Hate is exclusion. Inclusion is literally what the I stands for. Increasing the recruitment pool almost always yields stronger teams. 

Favoring one group or groups over another group is inherently exclusionary to the latter group. Thus, by your definition, DEI is hateful (which is obvious).

You don’t seem to know what the definition of “definition” is. 

Taking down the “whites only” signs in a public high school and escorting black kids in to assure they get the same books and same teachers as the white kids is not “favoring one group or groups over another group.” It is enforcing the opposite. 

Nor is it “favoring” the black kids in that high school to recognize that the deficiencies of the separate-and-unequal jr high and elementary schools they’d been to prior to desegregation means they may need extra assistance to catch up to their white peers who’d always gotten the new books and better facilities. 

Yes, segregation is officially over (though taxpayer funded school voucher initiatives are working hard to restore it), but the unequal treatment continues to this day, and every initiative to change that, from the workplace all the way back to pre-school is met with opposition seeking to retrench the status quo while euphemistically relabeling it as a meritocracy.

It’s just another version of Jim Crow. Remember ol’ Jim? He had a bit of a passive aggressive vibe. “Sure, you can vote, but first you have to correctly tell me how many jelly beans are in this jar.”

Now it’s “Sure, you can compete for jobs in our meritocracy, but first you have to get an education after we’ve sucked the money out of public schools for these new ‘choice vouchers’ that you can’t use because you don’t have transportation to our private schools on the other side of town, and they won’t take a voucher as full tuition anyway. Also, you’d have to apply and be accepted, and clearly you’re unqualified. And don’t you dare accuse us of discrimination, because you can’t prove it. We’ve outlawed collecting demographic info on our admissions, because that would be ‘racist.’ ”

Looks like you've spent a ton of effort asswaging your cognitive dissonance rather than looking objectively at this issue, turning all your positions into unfixable knots. The people pushing DEI are the same ones 'outlawing' demographic info. We spend more money on education for much poorer results relative to other nations. Vouchers don't work because.. transportation? C'mon. Nobody wants to say the "p" word when it comes to education: parents. It's funny how you take the agency away from POC by attributing all of the inequity purely to external factors. It's not a healthy or productive way to deal with this issue. But, people would rather keep the status quo then feel a bit uncomfortable, which, as someone who spent 10 years helping (primarily) POC kids heal from emotional trauma, is disheartening. 

A school voucher for a private school across town is useless to a student who cannot get to the school. Public schools provide free school buses for this purpose unless the school is so close they can walk to it. Requiring the voucher to pay the cost of transportation to the “choice” school would only be keeping minimum parity with the public option. Also, if public schools are so over-funded, then the voucher carrying a given student’s allotment should be more than enough to cover tuition at the much more efficient private schools, but yet it isn’t even close. Vouchers are not about school choice and “the benefits of competition.” They are about re-segregation by leaving the “less desirable” kids behind at separate and unequal schools. 

As far as “agency” and external factors, I figure after five centuries of persistently crapping on a given population, maybe it wouldn’t be too terribly patronizing to try to at least stop doing that before giving the parents of that population’s newest generation a firm lecture about bootstraps. 

Wesley Hilliard said:

SmittyW said:

Wesley Hilliard said:

thrang said:

Calvinator said:

My goodness, all the verbal gymnastics here arguing against something as common sense as hiring the most qualified person for the job.

Yes a bunch of nonsense. DEI has always been misguided, it’s clearly going away, and good riddance.

Funny, as nearly every writer here at AppleInsider appears to be white! (based on the author photos)… Wesley, resign to make room for a DEI hire! Do the right thing!

What is the definition of “white”? I look white by every definition, but had a half middle eastern / half Eastern European heritage. But I’m a white….minority?? 

Yeah, that's not how DEI works. Lmao. Wtf

Yeah, it kinda is.

Instead of sharing a chart that was posted by End Wokeness out of context, you could read the actual reports they are from. Funny enough, even with this trend, the makeup of the United States workforce top to bottom was still predominantly white. It barely moved the needle. But it was a move in the right direction, at least that is until all of the companies from this study laid off large swaths of their workforce shortly after, which predominantly affected the people of color added to the workforce.

But you wouldn't know that because you saw a chart posted out of context by a bigoted X account and figured that was all the information you needed.

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2023-black-lives-matter-equal-opportunity-corporate-diversity/

What about some basic math? 204 million white people in the US work force versus 35 million Black, 17 million Asian, and 49 million Hispanic. Even if every minority in America was hired there would still be about 100 million jobs to fill. DEI doesn't take white jobs. It's a fallacy invented by bigots.

https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/economicdata/empsit_05032024.pdf