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  • Threads hasn't been alive for a day, and Twitter is already threatening to sue

    jSnively said:
    We run negative stories about Apple all the time...

    ...what you think our responsibility is to Twitter? Should we be sanitizing our content for an external company? That kinda spits in the face of a lot of journalistic ethics. 

    I wasn't suggesting that AppleInsider never takes shots at Apple.  I was only saying that if it constantly did that, it would be out of place.  If anything, Macworld takes more shots at Apple than AppleInsider does.  I know this because I've been a subscriber of Macworld for decades.  And in recent years, they have been more critical of Apple that in the distant past, although I tend to agree with them on most of their jabs at Apple.  Apple isn't perfect and needs to be called out when it makes blunders, the butterfly keyboard, missing SD card slot, absence of MagSafe, being but a few examples of where Apple dropped the ball and then rectified that error some years later (thankfully).  I was quite unpopular in this very forum back in 2016 when all that was going on because most forum members said the decision was made and it was here to say.  I was mocked when I disagreed.  LOL.  Boy, were those mockers of me wrong, but I had a gut feeling they would be, and I stuck to my guns, all the while sending plenty of feedback to Apple about my dislike of their decision.  Apple listened, they made changes, and the rest is history.

    Thank you for asking what I think your responsibility is to Twitter.  The answer is, don't mimic what the mainstream tech media does, which is constantly bash Must and Twitter.  That's all I ever read these days.  Musk and Twitter aren't perfect, and I think rich people can defend themselves, but at the same time, I see more bashing of Musk and Twitter than praises, and I don't think the bad he and Twitter have done are worthy of the level of bashing they receive by the mass media.

    I use my iPhone and the Flipboard app every morning.  I read mainly tech news, but also mainstream media news.  Anything good about Musk and Twitter is relatively little and seems to be from news outlets with a conservative slant, while the bulk of the Musk/Twitter news is negativity that comes from the Left.

    Honestly, the big problem with the mass media today is bias and commentary.  On AppleInsider we expect commentary in the form of articles, but when I flip on the general  news, I really want the unbiased reporting of facts.  I don't want to see a bunch of pretty botox faces telling me what they think and therefore what they feel I should think.  I want to decide for myself.  

    When it comes to AppleInsider, I honestly come here for info on Apple.  It is APPLE insider, after all.  I like that name better than MacRumors, which is why I prefer your content over theirs, despite both offering similar news all the time.  I personally don't need content about other things, although I realize you need to put that out to be well rounded.  Twitter doesn't matter so much to me.  But what does bother me is the mostly one sided negative slant on Twitter and Musk.  So whenever I see that negativity continue, especially here where I really don't care to read about that and prefer more Apple-centric news, I moan.  And you have read my moans in this thread.  AND, you saw the FaceBook screenshots I posted, so you know I am not alone in moaning. But it isn't just moaning.  I've given you my sound reasoning for those moans.

    Should you sanitize content for an external company?  Well, how much do you reveal or hold back when it comes to Apple?  Do you honestly tell everything there is to tell?  Or do you sometimes not run certain stories for your own reasons?  You guys make the final call about the articles you publish.  You know that.  And when you release an article, regardless if reason, that seems to fit a certain narrative on a polarizing issue like Twitter, it makes some people like me who dislike that narrative moan.  Maybe that moaning doesn't matter to you.  But all I can do is provide feedback, which I have.

    Does it really "spit in the face of journalistic ethics" to decide to run a story or not?  Well, that depends.  Twitter censored a variety of things under their previous leader that it should not have, which is all the more reason why that company is just as polarizing as US politics in general.  But you should already know that.  It could be that some of you agree with that censorship or may not even want to call it censorship at all.  You may prefer the politically correct term of "moderation" when it comes to content.  But the fact is that some call into question the ethics behind the censorship of Twitter before Musk took over.

    Every news source or tech media organization has its own slant.  There's no getting around that.  Some may consider that unethical, but the media proceeds on its current path anyway, so long as that path pays the bills. Ethics be darned.

    What I appreciate about AppleInsider is the fact that the vast majority of your content is great.  And I appreciate the fact you listen to the little people like me who voice opinions.  I felt the article in question was following a particular narrative.  You seem to disagree.  So we can agree to disagree on this matter and move on.

    All in all, I appreciate what you folks do.  Keep up the great work.  Best wishes.
    williamlondon
  • Threads hasn't been alive for a day, and Twitter is already threatening to sue

    On the contrary, I haven't complained about you at all. I have poked fun of your lack of self-awareness.


    Not "at all"???
    "On the contrary" indicates you disagree with me.  So let's ponder what you wrote earlier in response to me...

    "...having to listen to you complain that AppleInsider had the audacity to publish accurate information....... what exactly are you afraid of in this situation, why does knowledge frighten you?"

    Go ahead and label your reply to me as merely "poking fun" if you will, but I view that as a thinly veiled complaint of me.  And of course, I think it's rather crazy too because the "knowledge" you speak of is the heart of the matter.  So let's dive deeper into "knowledge" and "accurate information," shall we?

    My opening post on page 1 of this thread was about the OTHER related AppleInsider article, under which we are prohibited from posting comments (although FaceBook does allow them under that same article, funny as that is).  The title of that other related article is 
    "How to delete your Twitter account on iOS & the web."

    As many have commented under that article on FaceBook, regardless of the motivations of AppleInsider in publishing that article, it does come off as a "suggestion" rather than general help that countless people have been asking for.  Disagree? Think I and others are misreading that article as being a "suggestion"?  Consider this...

    One would be blind or ignorant NOT to know of all the articles the tech media in general puts out every single day which bash Musk and Twitter in one way or another.  It's largely negative, as if the tech media thought extremely well of Twitter prior to Musks purchase, but now despises Twitter mainly because of Musk and because of changes to Twitter that the tech media FEELS are not in the best interest of everyone.  It's also easy to pile on the bashing when everyone else in your tech media industry is doing the same; and since Twitter and Musk aren't Apple, it's not like AppleInsider is speaking anything negative about the company we all know and love.  So while bashing Apple on a site named AppleInsider would be taboo, not so of Twitter and Musk which aren't a part of Apple.  It's gloves-off when it comes to Twitter!

    When you as an AppleInsider or tech-media reader understand that generally NEGATIVE sentiment about Musk and Twitter very much exists, and then you come along and spot an article on one of your favorite Apple-focused news sources that is titled "How to delete your Twitter account on iOS & the web," it's pretty darned hard NOT to think of that being yet another article in a stream of others which take that same tired, negative narrative about Musk and Twitter.  

    It's not like the article says: "We like Twitter, but we realize some people don't, so here's how to delete your account."  That would be more positive, upbeat, and would break with the generally negative narrative of the tech media.  Such wording would establish an article about account deletion being more of a helpful FYI than a subtle suggestion.  Sorry to say though, the opening paragraph in that article actually takes the negative tone I just referred to by saying: "Given how things are going on Twitter, and the options that have cropped up lately, folks are looking for the exit."  

    Wow.  No wonder people like myself view the article as more of a suggestion than a mere FYI article which only resulted because of so many people asking for it!

    Note the statement: "given how things are going."  

    Friends, how ARE things going?  According to the tech media in general, as I just said, they would say things at Twitter are not going well.  And yet, not all Twitter users take that stance.  They view it more as a battle for the mind.

    The topic of Twitter is as polarizing as the topic of politics in general in the USA today.  Why? Because it is inseparably tied to politics!  As such, articles written about Twitter need to take that into account, not with comment bans, but with a more neutral tone in article titles and wording.

    The "given how things are going" statement reinforces why some of us spotted the article title, read the opening paragraph, and then began to think or say what many article commenters on FaceBook are saying (see my earlier post for two screenshot).  Some of us just want the tech media to back off the Twitter/Musk negatively and complaining, and let change play itself out in a free market, capitalistic system.  

    If people jettison Twitter from their lives because they simply don't need it or dislike it, NOT because the tech media or TV news dislike Twitter and constantly influence them to dislike it, great!  But who lives in a bubble, totally ignorant of tech media negativity about Twitter? If you like or dislike something based on suggestions you receive from the news media at large, rather than from personal experience, well, that is mainly on you; but the media who feed that info to us has a responsibility too.

    In the end, if people dislike Twitter, they will leave it.  But I contend they don't need to be subtly prodded to leave by "given how things are going" statements which exist as an indirect recommendation to Twitter users to consider deleting their Twitter account.  What I have written in this thread merely takes issue with that, and as per comments we see on Facebook, I am not alone.

    So much for the claim that you merely "poked fun at my lack of self-awareness" and you are a defender of "accurate information."

    williamlondon
  • Threads hasn't been alive for a day, and Twitter is already threatening to sue

    jdw said:
    But CHANGE is better than what the old Twitter did.
    How would you know what the old Twitter did? You're claiming you only used it a couple of times a year in another post in this thread. 
    Yet more complaining/trolling of me.  Crazy.  Especially so when the answer to your own question is obvious.  How much usage does it take to know what the old Twitter did?  Please quantify that for us, because you obviously are suggesting a few uses per year is impossible for you to know anything about Twitter.  Too bad, because it isn't impossible for me.  Especially so when I read the tech news daily to supplement my usage.  No one can say they are in the dark about the new or old Twitter, and especially not someone who has used it before.
    Alex1Nwilliamlondonwatto_cobra
  • Threads hasn't been alive for a day, and Twitter is already threatening to sue

    If that fallout is folks like that stop reading AppleInsider the it's a net win. But they won't stop,,,, you are still here. So I guess the fallout is having to listen to you complain that AppleInsider had the audacity to publish accurate information....... what exactly are you afraid of in this situation, why does knowledge frighten you?
    Hilarious.  Here you are doing your own set of complaining, except your complaint is minor -- about me, a single guy in a forum.  My issue looks at the broader picture of all the silly media coverage of Musk/Twitter.  Just roll with the punches and enjoy the ride.  That's the entire point.  There's too much complaining about CHANGE.

    And as to deleting accounts, I so no need.  I have a Twitter account I only use a couple times a year to enter a giveaway.  That's it.  Interestingly, I won something in the past too.  But despite my almost not needing Twitter at all, I see no need to waste my time deleting my account.  Maybe it will interest me one day more than it does today.  Even so, I wish Musk well.  It is his baby now, after all.  And the rest of the world who didn't put their money on the line or contribute to the creation of Twitter merely sit around complaining. Madness.
    williamlondonwatto_cobra
  • Threads hasn't been alive for a day, and Twitter is already threatening to sue

    The upside to the AppleInsider on FaceBook is that Comments are never banned under Articles posted there, even when comments are banned under a particular article here.  And when you read them today, you can see that I am not alone in having a "what the...!" reaction to the "How to delete your Twitter account..." article, even if it was inspired by requests.  Consider the fallout...










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