mikethemartian

skingers said:

Absolutely ridiculous. As a Mac customer since the 1990s it's clear to me the Mac has never been in a better place.  Steve Jobs would have been delighted with what they have been able to achieve with Apple Silicon for the Mac and they make "the whole widget" now just as he always wanted.  On top of that Tim Cook is an absolute logistics and supply genius and people underestimate how much this has meant to Apple becoming what it is today.  As an Apple shareholder I would like to see Tim stay on for a long while yet.

davidw said:

mikethemartian said:

Could you imagine if Tim Cook would have had to demonstrate the feature live in real time like Jobs used to do instead of a nicely edited prerecorded video.

That's comparing Apples to oranges.

Cook can not demo the feature live because the feature do not yet exist in any real product by Apple. or even in a product that is in production with a firm future release date.

While Jobs on the other hand had a real live product to demo. That were either immediately available after the demo or a firm release date usually not more than a few weeks away.

But in reality, there probably never have been or ever will be, a CEO that can demo a product as well as Jobs did. The "reality distortion field" lived and died with Jobs. Not only is it not possible for Cook to demo an Apple product like Jobs, there isn't any other CEO or any future CEO of Apple that can. Not demoing a product like Jobs, is not a point against having Cook as CEO.

https://gavinlucas22.medium.com/steve-jobs-reality-distortion-field-explained-5ac3c8e5f992

KalMadda said:

gatorguy said:

KalMadda said:

I think people are being way too hard on Apple over this.  For all we know, it sounds like they actually did have these features most of the way completed, but ran into issues later in the process, and so now have to spend time repairing and reworking elements.  And the ads they ran were very clear that those features weren’t available yet.  Sometimes things come up and happen, I’d rather they spend the time to fix whatever issues they ran into with it then them rushing it out for release…

"If these features exist in any sort of working state at all, no one outside Apple has vouched for their existence, let alone for their quality....
 Why did Apple show these personalized Siri features at WWDC last year, and promise their arrival during the first year of Apple Intelligence? Why, for that matter, do they now claim to “anticipate rolling them out in the coming year” if they still currently do not exist in demonstratable form? And now they look so out of their depth, so in over their heads, that not only are they years behind the state-of-the-art in AI, but they don’t even know what they can ship or when.

Their headline features from nine months ago not only haven’t shipped but still haven’t even been demonstrated, which I, for one, now presume means they can’t be demonstrated because they don’t work."

Mark Gurman reported info about them from his sources, first saying they would be ready by 18.4, then saying they had been delayed to 18.5 due to issues that arose with the features.  So there is no reason to believe they don’t exist at all.  Creating AI features like this with privacy and security is a difficult task, and likely they discovered an issue with it recently after the features were most of the way completed that will require some reworking to fix.  That’s the way complex software like this ends up working out sometimes.  There is absolutely zero reason to believe the features don’t exist.

Furthermore, Apple basically never demonstrates unreleased software features before they’re in beta to journalists or any outside sources, so expecting that is incredibly unreasonable.  Just because Apple hasn’t shown these features to journalists doesn’t mean they don’t exist.  That’s a preposterous leap that doesn’t even make any semblance of logical sense…

Stabitha_Christie said:

AppleInsider said:

As it turns out, the enhanced Siri was delayed because the company found that it only works properly about two-thirds of the time. 

Two out of three ain't bad, or based on Meat Loaf's standards it isn't.

The Bloomberg article says it worked 60-80% of the time. Color me surprised, the punditry around this whole situation has painted a far worse picture than that and it sounds much further along than I had expected.